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Any good alternative? I like hacker news for now that it still got some comments worth reading and interesting articles

spazx 3y ago
Not that I know of. I keep poking around all the ones that pop up here, some of which are nicely made but still small, and I've been contemplating joining a Lemmy instance or starting one with some friends.
_pferreir_ 3y ago
Lemmy: https://join-lemmy.org/ https://join-lemmy.org/
- egeozcan 3y ago
  Are these servers like subreddits, or more like email providers? Is there a "see all, interact with all, no restrictions" lemmy server? Help! :)
  - jchw 3y ago
    That's kind of the thing about the fediverse: that's basically not possible. Any instance that doesn't engage in some blocking will probably be blocked for what it doesn't block. You could, of course, run your own instance, but obviously that's its own can of worms. So... It's tricky. edit: also, sites like joinmastodon USUALLY just completely exclude anything too controversial, for pretty obvious reasons. Dunno about join-lemmy but I'd bet on it.
    - Sophira 3y ago
      > Any instance that doesn't engage in some blocking will probably be blocked for what it doesn't block. So if I'm understanding correctly, it's a platform that encourages peer pressure and bullying? Or am I misunderstanding?
      - TeMPOraL 3y ago
        Yes. That's exactly how it played out with Mastodon.
      - spaniard89277 3y ago
        It's basically run by infantile people.
    - dclowd9901 3y ago
      You know what made Reddit popular? Share ability. How the hell am I going to send a link to the Lemmy verse or whatever to my brother in law?
      - Deestan 3y ago
        It's on the web, so you can send links the regular way. Either right-click a post, copy link, paste into brother-in-law chat. Or open a post, copy the browser's address bar, paste into brother-in-law chat. E.g. https://beehaw.org/post/529329 https://beehaw.org/post/529329
    - spiderice 3y ago
      > Any instance that doesn't engage in some blocking will probably be blocked for what it doesn't block Yikes.. damn. I haven't really jumped in to the fediverse yet, but I've been excited about its potential. But this sounds incredibly toxic. Basically it sounds like we've gone from having to conform to the corporation's rules, to having to conform to the center of the venn diagram or else you get shut off. Am I misunderstanding?
      - alphager 3y ago
        > having to conform to the center of the venn diagram or else you get shut off There's no shutting off. The instances that are blocked still work. It's like email. If cheapviagrapillz.com is identified as sending a substantial amount of spam, they will be blacklisted. Their server still works, they can still send emails, but many servers will not accept those emails.
  - sprokolopolis 3y ago
    Each server (AKA "Instance") is kind of like an email provider, or like a bunch of individual Reddit websites. On Lemmy a "Community" is their version of a subreddit. Each server/instance hosts its own communities, but if you have an account on one server, you can still subscribe, read and post on off-server communities. Each server is a piece of the federation. Some Instances do not federate with all other instances though. I'm not sure if there are any instances that access every other instance. I'm not sure about lemmy, but I know that on other fediverse projects like Mastodon there were some servers that were completely unmoderated, filled with terrible content and were defederated by most other instances. Most decent people don't want to see that stuff on their feed.
    - xigoi 3y ago
      > some servers that were completely unmoderated, filled with terrible content and were defederated by most other instances. Most decent people don't want to see that stuff on their feed. Why not solve that by blocking them yourself, instead of forcing everyone else to block them?
      - sprokolopolis 3y ago
        From a user point of view that would do just fine. Maybe server owners might not want to be associated with those instances for potential legal issues. Some servers admins have also defederated from certain instances because they were receiving increased trolling/spam from certain instances and it was too much work to moderate with the current number of mods they had.
- bobsoap 3y ago
  Thanks, I'd read about Lemmy in various threads on here and finally decided to check it out. Unfortunately, it seems to be down right now.
andrewstuart2 3y ago
Lemmy is still significantly lower user count but honestly I prefer the community at the moment. Everything feels small and jovial. At least for the 12 comments I've posted thus far. I'm running my own, which makes it easy to federate out to pretty much anything and worry less about overload as I'm not really pushing for users. Thus far, it's definitely felt like a very viable replacement for reddit for the communities I have found.
- Semaphor 3y ago
  The current de-federation stuff is already bringing out extreme toxicity and personal attacks.
  - mozman 3y ago
    Why is this bad? Isn't it represantitive of real life? There's no such thing as a safe space, only a strong mind.
    - Semaphor 3y ago
      > Everything feels small and jovial. From the comment I replied to. People getting up in their arms and attacking others for no good reason does not seem very jovial. It seems dumb, childish, and immature, which yes, is what I expect from a random sampling of people. I don’t want safe spaces, I simply prefer to surround myself with people not being idiots and assholes, it makes life far more relaxing.
    - roqueasoto 3y ago
      How is this representative of real life? Like where do you live where people are toxic to you to your face and harass you, honest to god I don’t really see that in my life at least. It’s pretty clear that people behave differently when given anonymity, shouldn’t we try to “emulate real life” at least in the way we interact with each other on the daily?
      - zdragnar 3y ago
growingentropy 3y ago
It's going to sound dumb, but honestly? I filled an rss reader up with some of the best sources I could think of, and am actually really enjoying just quietly taking the world in again, instead of trying to come up with my latest snarky Reddit-friendly quip.
- basch 3y ago
  Do you have your best source list?
  - growingentropy 3y ago
    News: Chicago Tribune (a certain browser with a certain addition bypasses the subscription shakedown), New York Times, Washington Post, the Associated Press, Reuters, the BBC. Tech: Hacker News, Tech Crunch, The Verge. Music: Pitchfork. MMA: MMA Fighting, Bloody Elbow. Plants: Epic Gardening and Indoor Gardening, with plans to add some carnivorous plant forums.
    - stOneskull 3y ago
      an rss feed of quantum-related rss feeds: https://entangled.cloud https://entangled.cloud
- spazx 3y ago
  I've actually been wanting to do this, but I don't personally know a lot of good sources that still use RSS. Would love to see your feed list.
  - growingentropy 3y ago
    News: Chicago Tribune (a certain browser with a certain addition bypasses the subscription shakedown), New York Times, Washington Post, the Associated Press, Reuters, the BBC. Tech: Hacker News, Tech Crunch, The Verge. Music: Pitchfork. MMA: MMA Fighting, Bloody Elbow. Plants: Epic Gardening and Indoor Gardening, with plans to add some carnivorous plant forums. Still looking for more stuff. It honestly feels strangely better absorbing without commenting.
bluedemon 3y ago
There's https://squabbles.io https://squabbles.io It's not federated, but the UI is okay for now than the other alternatives that I've seen. It's ran by 1 dev who has quickly been adding features and listening to user feedback. It's also nearing 16,000 users and a few users are developing some mobile apps for it.
Gareth321 3y ago
kbin.social is really great. It’s the most active Lemmy instance and it connects with Lemmy and Mastodon so you’ve got both networks built in. The UX is, I feel, better than instances which use the Lemmy front end. The mobile site is actually functional. Sadly no app yet. Of course the networks are much smaller than Reddit, but the conversations are much more qualitative. I honestly prefer it. Less soon scrolling.
sideproject 3y ago
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shirro 3y ago
Hacker News is till great though the more I get exposed to the whole ActivityPub fediverse thing the more I wish it wasn't disconnected. I was in a read only HN app earlier today and wanted to post a comment to HN and instantly wished I could post a link into jerboa's search and have Hacker News available as a community. The technology is getting there. The problem is the communities need time to grow. Star Trek fans have made a real effort. The bulk of reddit content is lowest common denominator shit and those consumers want everything handed to them fully formed. They aren't going to deal with server instability and submit bug reports and try and build new communities. They will delete Apollo and install the Reddit official app.
Panoramix 3y ago
I liked kbin.social a lot. It's a little rough around the edges, and doesn't have a ton of users, but I found that that's actually very ok. It reminds me of Reddit 10 years ago. Nowadays every thread in Reddit is either stupid memes and the same predictable jokes over and over, or some fanatical social wars stuff. Kbin looks like a place where you can actually have a conversation again, without being banned or destroyed for disagreeing even if done rationally and politely. I hope it survives its technical challenges.
quetzthecoatl 3y ago
be careful for what you wish for. 4chan went from both good and bad at the same time to overwhelmingly bad, eclipsing and later drowning the good due to reddit's initial purge of problematic communities implicitly encouraging them to migrate to communities like 4chan. Reddit fostered and encouraged these communities (it is said that spez was a mod for jailbait subreddit) in the initial days when its aim was to become the website with most active users/content. You really don't want reddit users here.
- 634636346 3y ago
  Supposedly Spez was made a mod of that subreddit by a troll who exploited a bug/feature that allowed you to make anyone a mod of your subreddit. However reddit did host that community for years (Spez claimed the creep mods were helpful in flagging cp throughout the site), and it's ironic you mention "problematic" communities migrating to 4chan in the same context, since 4chan takes a much harsher stance on the sexualization of minors than reddit. KiwiFarms even more so. > You really don't want reddit users here No one wants reddit users.
  - quetzthecoatl 3y ago
    >Supposedly Spez was made a mod of that subreddit by a troll who exploited a bug/feature that allowed you to make anyone a mod of your subreddit. I stand corrected then. It's been seen many times in the last few weeks in many places. > since 4chan takes a much harsher stance on the sexualization of minors than reddit. While true, the time I was around there, the time of gaia online/SA/4chan (2005 to 09) it was also something that people joked about. There was even a popular character called pedobear that was often used as the butt of jokes for those who sexualized minors. Though reddit was a later phenomenon, and reddit was an order of magnitude worse, it wasn't like sexualization of minors was looked at as a crime at 4chan by everyone. There were some free speech absolutists who claimed to be against it, but were against taking it down.
Maxion 3y ago
Surprisingly no one has mentioned Tildes.net yet. It's something in between reddit and hackernews. Requires an invite to register, though they are quite easy to find.
- HelloMcFly 3y ago
  How? I've been anonymously lurking on Tildes for months, haven't seen an opportunity. I'm even a Patreon subscriber!
  - kaba0 3y ago
    I got one today by writing to someone on r/redditalternatives mentioning it. Would offer you one, but can’t yet send invites.
hiepph 3y ago
Lemmy! I've been checking it out lately and people are moving popular subreddits to Lemmy's servers. It's a bit confusing at first but once you get it, it works like email. And it's... fantastic! But I'll wait for this protest to die down to see its "real" value. Most of the posts now are about the protest and migration from Reddit. Things are on fire now.

Not that I know of. I keep poking around all the ones that pop up here, some of which are nicely made but still small, and I've been contemplating joining a Lemmy instance or starting one with some friends.

_pferreir_ 3y ago

Lemmy: https://join-lemmy.org/ https://join-lemmy.org/

egeozcan 3y ago
Are these servers like subreddits, or more like email providers? Is there a "see all, interact with all, no restrictions" lemmy server? Help! :)
- jchw 3y ago
  That's kind of the thing about the fediverse: that's basically not possible. Any instance that doesn't engage in some blocking will probably be blocked for what it doesn't block. You could, of course, run your own instance, but obviously that's its own can of worms. So... It's tricky. edit: also, sites like joinmastodon USUALLY just completely exclude anything too controversial, for pretty obvious reasons. Dunno about join-lemmy but I'd bet on it.
  - Sophira 3y ago
    > Any instance that doesn't engage in some blocking will probably be blocked for what it doesn't block. So if I'm understanding correctly, it's a platform that encourages peer pressure and bullying? Or am I misunderstanding?
    - TeMPOraL 3y ago
      Yes. That's exactly how it played out with Mastodon.
    - spaniard89277 3y ago
      It's basically run by infantile people.
  - dclowd9901 3y ago
    You know what made Reddit popular? Share ability. How the hell am I going to send a link to the Lemmy verse or whatever to my brother in law?
    - Deestan 3y ago
      It's on the web, so you can send links the regular way. Either right-click a post, copy link, paste into brother-in-law chat. Or open a post, copy the browser's address bar, paste into brother-in-law chat. E.g. https://beehaw.org/post/529329 https://beehaw.org/post/529329
  - spiderice 3y ago
    > Any instance that doesn't engage in some blocking will probably be blocked for what it doesn't block Yikes.. damn. I haven't really jumped in to the fediverse yet, but I've been excited about its potential. But this sounds incredibly toxic. Basically it sounds like we've gone from having to conform to the corporation's rules, to having to conform to the center of the venn diagram or else you get shut off. Am I misunderstanding?
    - alphager 3y ago
      > having to conform to the center of the venn diagram or else you get shut off There's no shutting off. The instances that are blocked still work. It's like email. If cheapviagrapillz.com is identified as sending a substantial amount of spam, they will be blacklisted. Their server still works, they can still send emails, but many servers will not accept those emails.
- sprokolopolis 3y ago
  Each server (AKA "Instance") is kind of like an email provider, or like a bunch of individual Reddit websites. On Lemmy a "Community" is their version of a subreddit. Each server/instance hosts its own communities, but if you have an account on one server, you can still subscribe, read and post on off-server communities. Each server is a piece of the federation. Some Instances do not federate with all other instances though. I'm not sure if there are any instances that access every other instance. I'm not sure about lemmy, but I know that on other fediverse projects like Mastodon there were some servers that were completely unmoderated, filled with terrible content and were defederated by most other instances. Most decent people don't want to see that stuff on their feed.
  - xigoi 3y ago
    > some servers that were completely unmoderated, filled with terrible content and were defederated by most other instances. Most decent people don't want to see that stuff on their feed. Why not solve that by blocking them yourself, instead of forcing everyone else to block them?
    - sprokolopolis 3y ago
      From a user point of view that would do just fine. Maybe server owners might not want to be associated with those instances for potential legal issues. Some servers admins have also defederated from certain instances because they were receiving increased trolling/spam from certain instances and it was too much work to moderate with the current number of mods they had.
bobsoap 3y ago
Thanks, I'd read about Lemmy in various threads on here and finally decided to check it out. Unfortunately, it seems to be down right now.

andrewstuart2 3y ago

Lemmy is still significantly lower user count but honestly I prefer the community at the moment. Everything feels small and jovial. At least for the 12 comments I've posted thus far. I'm running my own, which makes it easy to federate out to pretty much anything and worry less about overload as I'm not really pushing for users. Thus far, it's definitely felt like a very viable replacement for reddit for the communities I have found.

Semaphor 3y ago
The current de-federation stuff is already bringing out extreme toxicity and personal attacks.
- mozman 3y ago
  Why is this bad? Isn't it represantitive of real life? There's no such thing as a safe space, only a strong mind.
  - Semaphor 3y ago
    > Everything feels small and jovial. From the comment I replied to. People getting up in their arms and attacking others for no good reason does not seem very jovial. It seems dumb, childish, and immature, which yes, is what I expect from a random sampling of people. I don’t want safe spaces, I simply prefer to surround myself with people not being idiots and assholes, it makes life far more relaxing.
  - roqueasoto 3y ago
    How is this representative of real life? Like where do you live where people are toxic to you to your face and harass you, honest to god I don’t really see that in my life at least. It’s pretty clear that people behave differently when given anonymity, shouldn’t we try to “emulate real life” at least in the way we interact with each other on the daily?
    - zdragnar 3y ago

growingentropy 3y ago

It's going to sound dumb, but honestly? I filled an rss reader up with some of the best sources I could think of, and am actually really enjoying just quietly taking the world in again, instead of trying to come up with my latest snarky Reddit-friendly quip.

basch 3y ago
Do you have your best source list?
- growingentropy 3y ago
  News: Chicago Tribune (a certain browser with a certain addition bypasses the subscription shakedown), New York Times, Washington Post, the Associated Press, Reuters, the BBC. Tech: Hacker News, Tech Crunch, The Verge. Music: Pitchfork. MMA: MMA Fighting, Bloody Elbow. Plants: Epic Gardening and Indoor Gardening, with plans to add some carnivorous plant forums.
  - stOneskull 3y ago
    an rss feed of quantum-related rss feeds: https://entangled.cloud https://entangled.cloud
spazx 3y ago
I've actually been wanting to do this, but I don't personally know a lot of good sources that still use RSS. Would love to see your feed list.
- growingentropy 3y ago
  News: Chicago Tribune (a certain browser with a certain addition bypasses the subscription shakedown), New York Times, Washington Post, the Associated Press, Reuters, the BBC. Tech: Hacker News, Tech Crunch, The Verge. Music: Pitchfork. MMA: MMA Fighting, Bloody Elbow. Plants: Epic Gardening and Indoor Gardening, with plans to add some carnivorous plant forums. Still looking for more stuff. It honestly feels strangely better absorbing without commenting.

bluedemon 3y ago

There's https://squabbles.io https://squabbles.io It's not federated, but the UI is okay for now than the other alternatives that I've seen. It's ran by 1 dev who has quickly been adding features and listening to user feedback. It's also nearing 16,000 users and a few users are developing some mobile apps for it.

Gareth321 3y ago

kbin.social is really great. It’s the most active Lemmy instance and it connects with Lemmy and Mastodon so you’ve got both networks built in. The UX is, I feel, better than instances which use the Lemmy front end. The mobile site is actually functional. Sadly no app yet. Of course the networks are much smaller than Reddit, but the conversations are much more qualitative. I honestly prefer it. Less soon scrolling.

sideproject 3y ago

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shirro 3y ago

Hacker News is till great though the more I get exposed to the whole ActivityPub fediverse thing the more I wish it wasn't disconnected. I was in a read only HN app earlier today and wanted to post a comment to HN and instantly wished I could post a link into jerboa's search and have Hacker News available as a community. The technology is getting there. The problem is the communities need time to grow. Star Trek fans have made a real effort. The bulk of reddit content is lowest common denominator shit and those consumers want everything handed to them fully formed. They aren't going to deal with server instability and submit bug reports and try and build new communities. They will delete Apollo and install the Reddit official app.

Panoramix 3y ago

I liked kbin.social a lot. It's a little rough around the edges, and doesn't have a ton of users, but I found that that's actually very ok. It reminds me of Reddit 10 years ago. Nowadays every thread in Reddit is either stupid memes and the same predictable jokes over and over, or some fanatical social wars stuff. Kbin looks like a place where you can actually have a conversation again, without being banned or destroyed for disagreeing even if done rationally and politely. I hope it survives its technical challenges.

quetzthecoatl 3y ago

be careful for what you wish for. 4chan went from both good and bad at the same time to overwhelmingly bad, eclipsing and later drowning the good due to reddit's initial purge of problematic communities implicitly encouraging them to migrate to communities like 4chan. Reddit fostered and encouraged these communities (it is said that spez was a mod for jailbait subreddit) in the initial days when its aim was to become the website with most active users/content. You really don't want reddit users here.

634636346 3y ago
Supposedly Spez was made a mod of that subreddit by a troll who exploited a bug/feature that allowed you to make anyone a mod of your subreddit. However reddit did host that community for years (Spez claimed the creep mods were helpful in flagging cp throughout the site), and it's ironic you mention "problematic" communities migrating to 4chan in the same context, since 4chan takes a much harsher stance on the sexualization of minors than reddit. KiwiFarms even more so. > You really don't want reddit users here No one wants reddit users.
- quetzthecoatl 3y ago
  >Supposedly Spez was made a mod of that subreddit by a troll who exploited a bug/feature that allowed you to make anyone a mod of your subreddit. I stand corrected then. It's been seen many times in the last few weeks in many places. > since 4chan takes a much harsher stance on the sexualization of minors than reddit. While true, the time I was around there, the time of gaia online/SA/4chan (2005 to 09) it was also something that people joked about. There was even a popular character called pedobear that was often used as the butt of jokes for those who sexualized minors. Though reddit was a later phenomenon, and reddit was an order of magnitude worse, it wasn't like sexualization of minors was looked at as a crime at 4chan by everyone. There were some free speech absolutists who claimed to be against it, but were against taking it down.

Maxion 3y ago

Surprisingly no one has mentioned Tildes.net yet. It's something in between reddit and hackernews. Requires an invite to register, though they are quite easy to find.

HelloMcFly 3y ago
How? I've been anonymously lurking on Tildes for months, haven't seen an opportunity. I'm even a Patreon subscriber!
- kaba0 3y ago
  I got one today by writing to someone on r/redditalternatives mentioning it. Would offer you one, but can’t yet send invites.

hiepph 3y ago

Lemmy! I've been checking it out lately and people are moving popular subreddits to Lemmy's servers. It's a bit confusing at first but once you get it, it works like email. And it's... fantastic! But I'll wait for this protest to die down to see its "real" value. Most of the posts now are about the protest and migration from Reddit. Things are on fire now.