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At some point it felt like FAANG companies were just drowning competition by hiring everyone decent enough instead of keeping up with their high bars, but you c

At some point it felt like FAANG companies were just drowning competition by hiring everyone decent enough instead of keeping up with their high bars, but you could say that at the time everyone wanted people who could code. So much that Bootcamps started being a popular way of getting people up to speed without going through the 4yr+ education that was deemed not entirely required and relevant anymore by more and more practicing engineers in the startup world. The not-so-evil view is that some MBAs figured each engineer was worth on average 3-5x their salary, so why not hire everyone until that almost evens out?

Hermitian909 3y ago
> So much that Bootcamps started being a popular way of getting people up to speed without going through the 4yr+ education that was deemed not entirely required and relevant anymore by more and more practicing engineers in the startup world. Bootcamps seem unlikely to go away even without zero percent interest. At most companies the amount of CS you need during your day job is usually laughably small. The most important question is whether you can ship, and plenty of people with CS degrees can't for one reason or another. If you're somewhere like FAANG, you need more CS, but if you have a quantitative background it's pretty straightforward to achieve that level of competency or exceed it. e.g. anyone who works through all the exercises in Operating Systems: Three Easy Pieces[0] is likely to have better OS fundamentals than the median FAANG Staff level engineer I've worked with. CS is pretty unusual in this way because ultimately for most of these learnings the computer can tells us whether we're right and have learned something correctly. [0] https://pages.cs.wisc.edu/~remzi/OSTEP/ https://pages.cs.wisc.edu/~remzi/OSTEP/

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At some point it felt like FAANG companies were just drowning competition by hiring everyone decent enough instead of keeping up with their high bars, but you c

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Hermitian909 3y ago
> So much that Bootcamps started being a popular way of getting people up to speed without going through the 4yr+ education that was deemed not entirely required and relevant anymore by more and more practicing engineers in the startup world. Bootcamps seem unlikely to go away even without zero percent interest. At most companies the amount of CS you need during your day job is usually laughably small. The most important question is whether you can ship, and plenty of people with CS degrees can't for one reason or another. If you're somewhere like FAANG, you need more CS, but if you have a quantitative background it's pretty straightforward to achieve that level of competency or exceed it. e.g. anyone who works through all the exercises in Operating Systems: Three Easy Pieces[0] is likely to have better OS fundamentals than the median FAANG Staff level engineer I've worked with. CS is pretty unusual in this way because ultimately for most of these learnings the computer can tells us whether we're right and have learned something correctly. [0] https://pages.cs.wisc.edu/~remzi/OSTEP/ https://pages.cs.wisc.edu/~remzi/OSTEP/