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> I do not believe would normally get reported in the US media. Why? Because you believe in a conspiracy of US news companies? This is laughable. If you cannot

> I do not believe would normally get reported in the US media. Why? Because you believe in a conspiracy of US news companies? This is laughable. If you cannot read these stories then go to Huffington Post or similar circle jerk sites. THIS DOES NOT BELONG ON HN NEWS > I believe that the reason the facts about Palestine are suppressed is because of organized "Hasbara" (public relations) efforts by Israel's supporters in the USA. (Example link: http://www.hasbara.com/ http://www.hasbara.com/) Those anti-Israeli people often accuses those who support Israel or at least mention that Israel is a secular democracy with freedom of religion (compared to its neighbours) as being "Hasbara boys". I've been accused of this various times - it is a way to silence anyone who defends Israel. > Otherwise I can't explain why there hasn't been more uproar about Israel's killing of US servicemen USS liberty was an accident that happened 40 years ago. Every anti-Israeli likes to bring this up... > For example, given the facts that I know about how Israel treats innocent Palestinian civilians, I have an ethical problem with Israel and do not intend to work for Israel, to buy Israeli products, to do business with Israel, I dislike how non-Muslims and women are treated in almost all the countries around Israel (Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Iraq, Jordan, etc...). Israel is a shining example of democracy and technological development. They produced more nobel prize winners than all of the other countries combined. They have technological industry and development and a modern society. Whilst women are not allowed to even go outside of the house in most neighbouring countries. But any case your tripe does not belong on Hacker News! Go back to reddit!

ucee054 15y ago
> USS liberty was an accident that happened 40 years ago The sale of the Phalcon radar to China is recent. The AIPAC espionage case is current http://original.antiwar.com/smith-grant/2009/09/01/steve-rosen-accuses-aipac/ http://original.antiwar.com/smith-grant/2009/09/01/steve-ros... Why aren't these big news? Do you want more examples? > But any case your tripe does not belong on Hacker News! Go back to reddit! Your tripe belongs on http://masada2000.org/ http://masada2000.org/
- Untitled 15y ago
  > The sale of the Phalcon radar to China is recent. You mentioned the USS Liberty and then I mentioned that it happened long ago. Then you mention something completely different and unrelated. Don’t change the topic and just answer me this: 1. Did the USS Liberty event happen more than 40 years ago? 2. Was it an accident? > The sale of the Phalcon radar to China is recent. Israel did not sell the Radar to China, you are lying to me. Israel wanted to sell the systems to China and asked for permission from the USA. The USA denied it and they didn't sell it. So what? The biggest trading partner of China is the USA. Do you see China as an enemy of the USA? Should the USA stop trading with China? I would say that that is pretty nice from the sovereign state of Israel to ask for US permission first. > Your tripe belongs on http://masada2000.org/ http://masada2000.org/ Again you accuse me of being either Jewish or a Jewish puppet. This is pathetic of you and I am quite sad of what has become of Hacker News. I know it is quite fashionable for people with too much time on their hands to jump on some PC bandwagon such as Israel bashing. I just don’t think that you are ill informed, extremely naive and a hypocrite. Hacker News was one of the last social sites where this tripe has been kept at bay. It is just sad that the likes of you will now also ruin HN.
  - ucee054 15y ago
    >1. Did the USS Liberty event happen more than 40 years ago? >2. Was it an accident? In the links in my original post 'Lt. Gen. Marshall Carter, the director of the NSA, told Congress that the attack "couldn't be anything else but deliberate."' > Israel did not sell the Radar to China, you are lying to me. You owe me a retraction. In the links in my original post "Cohen demanded Israel cancel the US $1-2 billion sale of 3-5 AWACS airborne radar aircraft to China." I never claimed the sale went through. It is pointless for me to cite the facts if you don't read the links. More from the original links: " Former CIA Director James Woolsey testified Israel has covertly sold 'several billions' of dollars worth of top-secret US technology to Israel since 1983. The Inspector General of the US State Department found, in a 1992 report, a 'systematic and growing pattern' of Israel selling American military technology in direct violation of US law. ... Pentagon sources charge Israel 'backdoored' US technology to China for the Patriot AA missile, other surface-to-air missiles; the PL-8 air-to-air missiles; C-802 anti-ship missiles; advanced composite tank armor and tank guns; aircraft avionics and ground radar systems; and the J-10 fighter, which is based on secret US technology used in Israel's cancelled 'Lavi' fighter. " I believe a lot of hackers would think twice about supplying advanced technology to Israel if they knew the facts about Israelis trying to sell it to China (or in the old days Apartheid South Africa) > Again you accuse me of being either Jewish or a Jewish puppet. I accused you of supporting Israel. It is even more pointless for me to reply to you at all if you don't read what I write, just what you make up. In fact I think I'll stop replying to you henceforth. > It is just sad that the likes of you will now also ruin HN. Oh the Irony!

ucee054 15y ago

> USS liberty was an accident that happened 40 years ago The sale of the Phalcon radar to China is recent. The AIPAC espionage case is current http://original.antiwar.com/smith-grant/2009/09/01/steve-rosen-accuses-aipac/ http://original.antiwar.com/smith-grant/2009/09/01/steve-ros... Why aren't these big news? Do you want more examples? > But any case your tripe does not belong on Hacker News! Go back to reddit! Your tripe belongs on http://masada2000.org/ http://masada2000.org/

Untitled 15y ago
> The sale of the Phalcon radar to China is recent. You mentioned the USS Liberty and then I mentioned that it happened long ago. Then you mention something completely different and unrelated. Don’t change the topic and just answer me this: 1. Did the USS Liberty event happen more than 40 years ago? 2. Was it an accident? > The sale of the Phalcon radar to China is recent. Israel did not sell the Radar to China, you are lying to me. Israel wanted to sell the systems to China and asked for permission from the USA. The USA denied it and they didn't sell it. So what? The biggest trading partner of China is the USA. Do you see China as an enemy of the USA? Should the USA stop trading with China? I would say that that is pretty nice from the sovereign state of Israel to ask for US permission first. > Your tripe belongs on http://masada2000.org/ http://masada2000.org/ Again you accuse me of being either Jewish or a Jewish puppet. This is pathetic of you and I am quite sad of what has become of Hacker News. I know it is quite fashionable for people with too much time on their hands to jump on some PC bandwagon such as Israel bashing. I just don’t think that you are ill informed, extremely naive and a hypocrite. Hacker News was one of the last social sites where this tripe has been kept at bay. It is just sad that the likes of you will now also ruin HN.
- ucee054 15y ago
  >1. Did the USS Liberty event happen more than 40 years ago? >2. Was it an accident? In the links in my original post 'Lt. Gen. Marshall Carter, the director of the NSA, told Congress that the attack "couldn't be anything else but deliberate."' > Israel did not sell the Radar to China, you are lying to me. You owe me a retraction. In the links in my original post "Cohen demanded Israel cancel the US $1-2 billion sale of 3-5 AWACS airborne radar aircraft to China." I never claimed the sale went through. It is pointless for me to cite the facts if you don't read the links. More from the original links: " Former CIA Director James Woolsey testified Israel has covertly sold 'several billions' of dollars worth of top-secret US technology to Israel since 1983. The Inspector General of the US State Department found, in a 1992 report, a 'systematic and growing pattern' of Israel selling American military technology in direct violation of US law. ... Pentagon sources charge Israel 'backdoored' US technology to China for the Patriot AA missile, other surface-to-air missiles; the PL-8 air-to-air missiles; C-802 anti-ship missiles; advanced composite tank armor and tank guns; aircraft avionics and ground radar systems; and the J-10 fighter, which is based on secret US technology used in Israel's cancelled 'Lavi' fighter. " I believe a lot of hackers would think twice about supplying advanced technology to Israel if they knew the facts about Israelis trying to sell it to China (or in the old days Apartheid South Africa) > Again you accuse me of being either Jewish or a Jewish puppet. I accused you of supporting Israel. It is even more pointless for me to reply to you at all if you don't read what I write, just what you make up. In fact I think I'll stop replying to you henceforth. > It is just sad that the likes of you will now also ruin HN. Oh the Irony!