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> In the past scientists have admitted to overstating the issue based on the justification that people would blow off their concerns if they didn't provide a ce

> In the past scientists have admitted to overstating the issue based on the justification that people would blow off their concerns if they didn't provide a certain amount of shock value. I always found our lack of understanding the scariest thing about climate change. We're launching a big experiment on the atmosphere and the climate that'll be irreversible for generations without fully understanding the effects. That by itself should already be enough to shock anyone.

GauntletWizard 3y ago
Doing nothing is an experiment we don't understand. We know the earth went through hundreds of warm and cold periods in the past, and those are just the ones we're very certain of. Every action and inaction is a risk. You've got to have some faith that you have enough data and vision to react.
- solumunus 3y ago
  It’s getting really tiring responding to these decades old nonsensical arguments. The difference between the Earth going through cooling or warming periods over the course of many millennia compared to us forcing rapid change over the span of a few hundred years is obviously significant.
  - dumpsterdiver 3y ago
    Did the parent poster claim that the hot/cold cycles we've found evidence of are evidence that human induced climate change doesn't exist? If so then I missed it. Granted, their phrasing was a bit cryptic so maybe I misunderstood, but their last sentence led me to believe that you two are actually in agreement.
- polotics 3y ago
  There is no trace of any release of CO2 in the atmosphere at the pace we have managed for a century now. None! There are releases over much longer periods, with massive observed impacts. Humanity will scrape by in Groenland, Antarctica... Unless Geo-Engineering saves some and buries others. Maybe read the book "Termination Shock" ?

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> In the past scientists have admitted to overstating the issue based on the justification that people would blow off their concerns if they didn't provide a ce

by armada651 3y ago

GauntletWizard 3y ago
Doing nothing is an experiment we don't understand. We know the earth went through hundreds of warm and cold periods in the past, and those are just the ones we're very certain of. Every action and inaction is a risk. You've got to have some faith that you have enough data and vision to react.
- solumunus 3y ago
  It’s getting really tiring responding to these decades old nonsensical arguments. The difference between the Earth going through cooling or warming periods over the course of many millennia compared to us forcing rapid change over the span of a few hundred years is obviously significant.
  - dumpsterdiver 3y ago
    Did the parent poster claim that the hot/cold cycles we've found evidence of are evidence that human induced climate change doesn't exist? If so then I missed it. Granted, their phrasing was a bit cryptic so maybe I misunderstood, but their last sentence led me to believe that you two are actually in agreement.
- polotics 3y ago
  There is no trace of any release of CO2 in the atmosphere at the pace we have managed for a century now. None! There are releases over much longer periods, with massive observed impacts. Humanity will scrape by in Groenland, Antarctica... Unless Geo-Engineering saves some and buries others. Maybe read the book "Termination Shock" ?