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Yeah, it’s funny what happens when the pilots need to access the head. The flight attendants move a cart to block the pathway while the cockpit door is open. I
by ghayes 3y ago
Yeah, it’s funny what happens when the pilots need to access the head. The flight attendants move a cart to block the pathway while the cockpit door is open. I tend to agree with FAA that this is an unnecessary vulnerability if we can easily add a secondary secure door between the cabin and the galley.
- dehrmann 3y agoHow many hijackings has this resulted in, though? The existing solution seems to be good enough.
- ses1984 3y agoShould we for a hijacking to happen, then implement the solution?
- George83728 3y agoShould we wait to see if a tiger lives under your bed before hiring a poacher to get it out?
- rascul 3y agoJust checked, I don't need a poacher.
- ehnto 3y agoThat's not exactly a logical comparison. We know the threat vector exists, we are already taking steps to defend against it (moving food cart in the way). It's just a door, I am pro literal defenses and against security theatre. Maybe if we shore up the cabin we can relax some of the other bullshit theatre going on.
- George83728 3y agoTiger attacks are far more common than plane hijackings, thousands of people are attacked by tigers every year. Listen, I know a guy.. he works for free if you let him keep the carcass. You don't want to take risks with tigers.
- ehnto 3y agoWell, let me know when a tiger grounds tens of thousands of flights, prompts an invasion and ushers in the post 9/11 security and privacy policies brought in by the war on terror. The tiger could probably jump over the cart though, maybe we should be worried.
- George83728 3y agoLet me know when lack of double doors does any of that. That sort of issue was resolved more than 20 years ago when passengers learned they need to fight back or die. The threat no longer exists. You're scared of imaginary tigers.
- ehnto 3y agoI'm not scared, I live in a country with some sanity. But jetliners around the world also have flight deck doors. You are being a bit silly, airflight was new, a few pretty serious incidents occured, we put in some doors and the potential for it to happen again goes away. It's less like an imaginary tiger and more like patching a really obvious risk with a cheap solution. Rather than relying on some wild dramatic movie hero scenario to play out, just close a little door. No big deal.
- George83728 3y ago> But jetliners around the world also have flight deck doors. That change (arguably itself unnecessary) was made in response an incident that happened shortly before that change was made. This new change is being made in response to... that same incident 20 years ago, which hasn't repeated. The tiger doesn't exist.
- Brian_K_White 3y agoYes. This is not a useful line of argument since it has no boundaries. So yes, proposals need to be somehow justified.
- jacobr1 3y agoThat is probably an argument to not require a retrofit of existing planes. It still might be a better approach if baked into new plane designs.