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First time I took methylphenidate I played piano for 8 hours straight Maybe your test is just a stupid assessment and doesn't reflect what it means to be 'in t

First time I took methylphenidate I played piano for 8 hours straight Maybe your test is just a stupid assessment and doesn't reflect what it means to be 'in the zone'

garciasn 3y ago
There is definitely a potential that the study design offered a measurement that wasn’t useful in determining how well these drugs do or do not work. But, in your example, you measured the length of time you put into playing the piano, something the study did address and note that people on the drugs did do—by increasing their time on task. The important part though was that while taking longer, the participants did not perform any better when on the actual drugs and worse than those on the placebos. So, following this logic in your own claims, it’s possible that while you played for 8 hours, it wasn’t your best work.
- arthurcolle 3y ago
  But if I wasn't on the drug, I wouldn't have done that at all, despite playing piano on and off for years prior to $EVENT So 8 hours of something is still more (magic internal neural network synaptic connection strengthening) than the null hyp which is "yeah, without stimuli, you're not playing piano for 8 hours"
devonnull 3y ago
You played piano for 8 hours straight, but were you 1) playing well, 2) repeating the same things over and over again, 3) doing something creative, or 4) any or all of the above?
jethronethro 3y ago
I've seen more than a few people on various drugs do some obsessive things, continually for long periods without a break. That didn't make them smart or skilled.
- hombre_fatal 3y ago
  Then again being able to focus on dull work seems more helpful than being smarter or more skilled while having to do that same work. My day to day life is full of things I just don’t want to do, not things I’m too dumb to do.
  - arthurcolle 3y ago
    :heavy_plus_sign:
nhinck2 3y ago
I knew someone who took something and played minesweeper for 8 hours straight. I'd say both are equally productive.
- arthurcolle 3y ago
  Imagine equating piano playing and a session of minesweeper #NGMI
Quinzel 3y ago
This sounds like what Ritalin does to hyperfocus. I personally think Ritalin makes hyperfocus much worse than when not on Ritalin - from my own experience of the drug for the treatment of ADHD
- arthurcolle 3y ago
  I'm just on Vyvanse these days, more like a nice pot of tea vs methylphenidate pop. Less piano, more ~~stretch your face~~ work/focus excitement stuff

First time I took methylphenidate I played piano for 8 hours straight Maybe your test is just a stupid assessment and doesn't reflect what it means to be 'in the zone'

garciasn 3y ago

There is definitely a potential that the study design offered a measurement that wasn’t useful in determining how well these drugs do or do not work. But, in your example, you measured the length of time you put into playing the piano, something the study did address and note that people on the drugs did do—by increasing their time on task. The important part though was that while taking longer, the participants did not perform any better when on the actual drugs and worse than those on the placebos. So, following this logic in your own claims, it’s possible that while you played for 8 hours, it wasn’t your best work.

arthurcolle 3y ago
But if I wasn't on the drug, I wouldn't have done that at all, despite playing piano on and off for years prior to $EVENT So 8 hours of something is still more (magic internal neural network synaptic connection strengthening) than the null hyp which is "yeah, without stimuli, you're not playing piano for 8 hours"

devonnull 3y ago

You played piano for 8 hours straight, but were you 1) playing well, 2) repeating the same things over and over again, 3) doing something creative, or 4) any or all of the above?

jethronethro 3y ago

I've seen more than a few people on various drugs do some obsessive things, continually for long periods without a break. That didn't make them smart or skilled.

hombre_fatal 3y ago
Then again being able to focus on dull work seems more helpful than being smarter or more skilled while having to do that same work. My day to day life is full of things I just don’t want to do, not things I’m too dumb to do.
- arthurcolle 3y ago
  :heavy_plus_sign:

nhinck2 3y ago

I knew someone who took something and played minesweeper for 8 hours straight. I'd say both are equally productive.

arthurcolle 3y ago
Imagine equating piano playing and a session of minesweeper #NGMI

Quinzel 3y ago

This sounds like what Ritalin does to hyperfocus. I personally think Ritalin makes hyperfocus much worse than when not on Ritalin - from my own experience of the drug for the treatment of ADHD

arthurcolle 3y ago
I'm just on Vyvanse these days, more like a nice pot of tea vs methylphenidate pop. Less piano, more ~~stretch your face~~ work/focus excitement stuff