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>To get a blue bubble you must give up control over your mobile life to Apple. As someone who has never used Apple products (well, except for the OS on an Appl

>To get a blue bubble you must give up control over your mobile life to Apple. As someone who has never used Apple products (well, except for the OS on an Apple II I built from a kit as a high school project in 1983), I don't understand why a "blue bubble" is important. Would you mind explaining that to me? Not being snarky here, I just really don't understand what value there is in a "blue bubble."

johnny22 3y ago
it's a status marker. Only people who can afford the iphone get a blue bubble.
- filoleg 3y ago
  > it's a status marker Not as much as you probably believe it is (at least in the US), given it has the majority smartphone owneship share here.
- scarface_74 3y ago
  This is such a tired cliche. How is something owned by 60% of the American market a “status symbol”?
criddell 3y ago
Blue means end-to-end encrypted. Green means plaintext.
AngryData 3y ago
It is a huge status symbol among the youth. Kids will discriminate against and even sometimes bully people for not having it. And there are certain features that only apple users can use over messaging that has no reasonable excuse for not allowing other mobile platforms to participate in other than to push kids into buying iphones so they aren't excluded. Effectively pushing kids into buying devices far more expensive and powerful than they actually have any usage for. And for kids of poorer families buying an iphone is a fairly large financial burden.
- hnick 3y ago
  And on slightly older people on Tinder too, or so I've heard (Australia). But maybe for some it's a positive that those people filter them out.
- realfeel78 3y ago
  You can get a perfectly functional used iPhone that runs the current OS for under $200. One only has to spend a lot if one wants the latest and greatest.
  - howinteresting 3y ago
    That still doesn't solve the issue that to get a blue bubble you must give up control over your mobile life to Apple. Almost nobody carries around two phones.
    - krger 3y ago
      >That still doesn't solve the issue that to get a blue bubble you must give up control over your mobile life to Apple. ...and if you "want the blue bubble" you must give up control over your messaging to Apple.
    - scarface_74 3y ago
      And if I want to use WhatsApp, I have to use WhatsApp.
- totallywrong 3y ago
  Wow. I never knew as the rest of the world uses WhatsApp. That's the most stupid thing I've heard in a while, I can't believe people give it any kind of importance. I've never owned an iPhone, stuff like this makes me even less likely to.
- scarface_74 3y ago
  To a first approximation, no one pays full price for a phone up front. They buy it through a carrier. Even the low end carriers like Metro give you a “free” iPhone with a contract. Even if that’s not the case, the price of a iPhone SE over two years is not that much higher than an Android. That’s not even bringing up the refurb market.

johnny22 3y ago

it's a status marker. Only people who can afford the iphone get a blue bubble.

filoleg 3y ago
> it's a status marker Not as much as you probably believe it is (at least in the US), given it has the majority smartphone owneship share here.
scarface_74 3y ago
This is such a tired cliche. How is something owned by 60% of the American market a “status symbol”?

criddell 3y ago

Blue means end-to-end encrypted. Green means plaintext.

AngryData 3y ago

It is a huge status symbol among the youth. Kids will discriminate against and even sometimes bully people for not having it. And there are certain features that only apple users can use over messaging that has no reasonable excuse for not allowing other mobile platforms to participate in other than to push kids into buying iphones so they aren't excluded. Effectively pushing kids into buying devices far more expensive and powerful than they actually have any usage for. And for kids of poorer families buying an iphone is a fairly large financial burden.

hnick 3y ago
And on slightly older people on Tinder too, or so I've heard (Australia). But maybe for some it's a positive that those people filter them out.
realfeel78 3y ago
You can get a perfectly functional used iPhone that runs the current OS for under $200. One only has to spend a lot if one wants the latest and greatest.
- howinteresting 3y ago
  That still doesn't solve the issue that to get a blue bubble you must give up control over your mobile life to Apple. Almost nobody carries around two phones.
  - krger 3y ago
    >That still doesn't solve the issue that to get a blue bubble you must give up control over your mobile life to Apple. ...and if you "want the blue bubble" you must give up control over your messaging to Apple.
  - scarface_74 3y ago
    And if I want to use WhatsApp, I have to use WhatsApp.
totallywrong 3y ago
Wow. I never knew as the rest of the world uses WhatsApp. That's the most stupid thing I've heard in a while, I can't believe people give it any kind of importance. I've never owned an iPhone, stuff like this makes me even less likely to.
scarface_74 3y ago
To a first approximation, no one pays full price for a phone up front. They buy it through a carrier. Even the low end carriers like Metro give you a “free” iPhone with a contract. Even if that’s not the case, the price of a iPhone SE over two years is not that much higher than an Android. That’s not even bringing up the refurb market.