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I work hard at work, and have multiple side projects outside of work which I rotate working through daily. At 28 I'm a top 1% earner for my age group. By every

I work hard at work, and have multiple side projects outside of work which I rotate working through daily. At 28 I'm a top 1% earner for my age group. By every measure of my friends I am one of the most productive people they know. In the words of one of them yesterday "you're a beast". I still game every Tuesday and for a few hours on the weekend, I also watch Anime. I find your argument pretty ridiculous. It's not like these things are mutually exclusive. The reality is everyone gamer or not is just generally inneficient with their time.

californical 3y ago
Yeah kinda same, as many people on HN. Similar age range. My partner and I are in the top couple percent of incomes, have more savings than the average retiree, have both achieved a lot in our careers, and have spent time volunteering for causes that genuinely improve people’s lives or contribute to the world. I also “waste” a lot of my time doing silly things (including video games, but other hobbies as well). I got the new Legend of Zelda game on release day! It makes no sense to say that these two can’t coexist. I think that doing enjoyable hobbies like video games makes me a more interesting person overall. Friends at work were asking about the new Zelda game when I said that I’d spent the weekend playing, for example. But like, why work so hard if I can’t do my video games and art and athletic hobbies?
- K0balt 3y ago
  Nobody born tomorrow cares if you make money or game. They care if they inherit a world that their grandchildren can prosper in. That’s what we all should be focusing some of our energy on.
  - jjulius 3y ago
    >Nobody born tomorrow cares if you make money or game. It's like you willfully ignored the following part of OP's comment and decided to continue to criticize them as though they didn't say this... >... and have spent time volunteering for causes that genuinely improve people’s lives or contribute to the world.
K0balt 3y ago
No one from the next generation cares about your “productivity”. They care about the net impact of your existence. What is your vaunted productivity creating? How does that look in 50 years? For many of us, looking in that particular mirror can be an unpleasant experience.
- ianbutler 3y ago
  I mean a lot of projects that so far other people are using to build cool things? Information that has helped other people fix problems or learn something they thought was hard. What has your tearing down of others accomplished? Have you considered a deeper look in the mirror yourself? From where I'm standing your the only one who seems in need of it, all of this sounds like projection to me.
K0balt 3y ago
Really, no one cares about your earnings or your gaming. The question you should be asking yourself is what you are leaving in your wake? What are you doing to make the world as good as or maybe slightly better than when you showed up? What do you produce to offset your resource consumption and environmental footprint? I started asking myself these questions in my thirties, and because of that I now write software and farm organic coffee, cacao, avacados, and a handful of other permaculture crops on a small scale. The farming makes zero money, but it is worthwhile, and I strive to create a space that benefits not only myself, but my community.
- ianbutler 3y ago
  Your original comment was painting a picture that people who game aren't productive, where you provided entirely arbitrary items you consider productive. My point was you can game and be productive. Your response tells me you've never done anything of note towards the next generation. Forgive me if I entirely ignore you, I'll continue actually doing things and let you get on with your armchair quarterbacking. At least I'm trying, instead of being passive aggressive on the internet.

californical 3y ago

Yeah kinda same, as many people on HN. Similar age range. My partner and I are in the top couple percent of incomes, have more savings than the average retiree, have both achieved a lot in our careers, and have spent time volunteering for causes that genuinely improve people’s lives or contribute to the world. I also “waste” a lot of my time doing silly things (including video games, but other hobbies as well). I got the new Legend of Zelda game on release day! It makes no sense to say that these two can’t coexist. I think that doing enjoyable hobbies like video games makes me a more interesting person overall. Friends at work were asking about the new Zelda game when I said that I’d spent the weekend playing, for example. But like, why work so hard if I can’t do my video games and art and athletic hobbies?

K0balt 3y ago
Nobody born tomorrow cares if you make money or game. They care if they inherit a world that their grandchildren can prosper in. That’s what we all should be focusing some of our energy on.
- jjulius 3y ago
  >Nobody born tomorrow cares if you make money or game. It's like you willfully ignored the following part of OP's comment and decided to continue to criticize them as though they didn't say this... >... and have spent time volunteering for causes that genuinely improve people’s lives or contribute to the world.

K0balt 3y ago

No one from the next generation cares about your “productivity”. They care about the net impact of your existence. What is your vaunted productivity creating? How does that look in 50 years? For many of us, looking in that particular mirror can be an unpleasant experience.

ianbutler 3y ago
I mean a lot of projects that so far other people are using to build cool things? Information that has helped other people fix problems or learn something they thought was hard. What has your tearing down of others accomplished? Have you considered a deeper look in the mirror yourself? From where I'm standing your the only one who seems in need of it, all of this sounds like projection to me.

K0balt 3y ago

Really, no one cares about your earnings or your gaming. The question you should be asking yourself is what you are leaving in your wake? What are you doing to make the world as good as or maybe slightly better than when you showed up? What do you produce to offset your resource consumption and environmental footprint? I started asking myself these questions in my thirties, and because of that I now write software and farm organic coffee, cacao, avacados, and a handful of other permaculture crops on a small scale. The farming makes zero money, but it is worthwhile, and I strive to create a space that benefits not only myself, but my community.

ianbutler 3y ago
Your original comment was painting a picture that people who game aren't productive, where you provided entirely arbitrary items you consider productive. My point was you can game and be productive. Your response tells me you've never done anything of note towards the next generation. Forgive me if I entirely ignore you, I'll continue actually doing things and let you get on with your armchair quarterbacking. At least I'm trying, instead of being passive aggressive on the internet.