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https://kbin.social https://kbin.social is a great alternative from what I can see. https://kbin.social/m/apple https://kbin.social/m/apple is already thriving

by shivy 3y ago

https://kbin.social https://kbin.social is a great alternative from what I can see. https://kbin.social/m/apple https://kbin.social/m/apple is already thriving, as is https://kbin.social/m/programming https://kbin.social/m/programming

simlevesque 3y ago
> https://kbin.social/m/apple https://kbin.social/m/apple is already thriving There were 2 posts in the last 24 hours. It's not thriving by any measure.
- s-zeng 3y ago
  Collectively, Lemmy and kbin instances (which federate with each other) just reached over 125k users or so. I've really enjoyed my time there so far.
  - stOneskull 3y ago
    does federate with each other mean you have one account and can log in into lemmy and kbin with that one account? or is it you can use lemmy with a kbin account and vice versa?
    - BaseballPhysics 3y ago
      You log in to your home instance (kbin or Lemmy, doesn't matter which) and you can follow and participate in communities hosted on other servers, which can be kbin or Lemmy, doesn't matter which, because they support a common protocol (ActivityPub). In fact, you can even interact with communities hosted on a Lemmy instance from a Mastodon instance, or Misskey. Heck, probably Pixelfed, though I haven't checked. Such is the beauty of the fediverse and protocols over platforms.
  - BoxOfRain 3y ago
    I think we need to start referring to Lemmy, Kbin, and presumably the dozen or so other 'ActivityPub with a Reddit-like interface' projects which will inevitably pop up collectively because while they compete the dynamics of that competition are in theory quite different to what you'd expect with centralised platforms as I can interact with communities on Kbin just as well from my 'home' Lemmy instance. I quite like the term 'Threadiverse' that's been going around lately.
Panzer04 3y ago
The concern I have with these federated instances is I don't see how they resolve the long term problems of stability. Content on instances can disappear at a moment's notice if it goes down. My favorite part about reddit is the amount of information it has that is well-indexed by google. These Lemmy and kbin alternatives might fulfill the moment-to-moment chatter, but it worries me that there's no guarantee of continuity for information. The best you can do is be discerning about the instance you pick. If there was a mechanism for distributing information across instances so it's saved, or some other assurance it'd make me happier about it.
- pixl97 3y ago
  Stability costs money no one wants to pay.
- paholg 3y ago
  Information is distributed across instances. If instance A hosts community C and a user on instance B subscribes to that community, its posts will be duplicated on instance B.
  - Panzer04 3y ago
    Really? That's very interesting, and good to hear. I'll have to look more into it, because that's really my main concern long term. Not that I have any real control, but I'm reticent to support platforms that could still go dark out of nowhere if I can avoid it.
  - cooljacob204 3y ago
    How does moderation work? If a mod deletes a post on A does it get deleted in B?
- basch 3y ago
  The current paradigm will be a learning experience, and more of an ethereal result than archival. It’ll itch some Snapchat rub. Lots of experimentation and destruction. Until identity transcends instances (shared identity databases between all the fediverse), communities are portable, and data peered across mirrors/nodes, it won’t work in a way that promotes longevity. The fediverse in its current incarnation benefits those that use social media more like a chat room than a wiki. But losing your account to the entire fediverse when an instance goes down seems way worse than an unused community disappearing. It’s like taking an email address from an email host that spun up yesterday for fun, and hoping you’ll keep access to it.

by shivy 3y ago

simlevesque 3y ago

> https://kbin.social/m/apple https://kbin.social/m/apple is already thriving There were 2 posts in the last 24 hours. It's not thriving by any measure.

s-zeng 3y ago
Collectively, Lemmy and kbin instances (which federate with each other) just reached over 125k users or so. I've really enjoyed my time there so far.
- stOneskull 3y ago
  does federate with each other mean you have one account and can log in into lemmy and kbin with that one account? or is it you can use lemmy with a kbin account and vice versa?
  - BaseballPhysics 3y ago
    You log in to your home instance (kbin or Lemmy, doesn't matter which) and you can follow and participate in communities hosted on other servers, which can be kbin or Lemmy, doesn't matter which, because they support a common protocol (ActivityPub). In fact, you can even interact with communities hosted on a Lemmy instance from a Mastodon instance, or Misskey. Heck, probably Pixelfed, though I haven't checked. Such is the beauty of the fediverse and protocols over platforms.
- BoxOfRain 3y ago
  I think we need to start referring to Lemmy, Kbin, and presumably the dozen or so other 'ActivityPub with a Reddit-like interface' projects which will inevitably pop up collectively because while they compete the dynamics of that competition are in theory quite different to what you'd expect with centralised platforms as I can interact with communities on Kbin just as well from my 'home' Lemmy instance. I quite like the term 'Threadiverse' that's been going around lately.

Panzer04 3y ago

The concern I have with these federated instances is I don't see how they resolve the long term problems of stability. Content on instances can disappear at a moment's notice if it goes down. My favorite part about reddit is the amount of information it has that is well-indexed by google. These Lemmy and kbin alternatives might fulfill the moment-to-moment chatter, but it worries me that there's no guarantee of continuity for information. The best you can do is be discerning about the instance you pick. If there was a mechanism for distributing information across instances so it's saved, or some other assurance it'd make me happier about it.

pixl97 3y ago
Stability costs money no one wants to pay.
paholg 3y ago
Information is distributed across instances. If instance A hosts community C and a user on instance B subscribes to that community, its posts will be duplicated on instance B.
- Panzer04 3y ago
  Really? That's very interesting, and good to hear. I'll have to look more into it, because that's really my main concern long term. Not that I have any real control, but I'm reticent to support platforms that could still go dark out of nowhere if I can avoid it.
- cooljacob204 3y ago
  How does moderation work? If a mod deletes a post on A does it get deleted in B?
basch 3y ago
The current paradigm will be a learning experience, and more of an ethereal result than archival. It’ll itch some Snapchat rub. Lots of experimentation and destruction. Until identity transcends instances (shared identity databases between all the fediverse), communities are portable, and data peered across mirrors/nodes, it won’t work in a way that promotes longevity. The fediverse in its current incarnation benefits those that use social media more like a chat room than a wiki. But losing your account to the entire fediverse when an instance goes down seems way worse than an unused community disappearing. It’s like taking an email address from an email host that spun up yesterday for fun, and hoping you’ll keep access to it.