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This is my first response, so I'll try and make it information>noise. This is a typically non-biological / ecological dunce post for Ycomb, n/and an ignorant

This is my first response, so I'll try and make it information>noise. This is a typically non-biological / ecological dunce post for Ycomb, n/and an ignorant post that I see commonly espoused by the bottom layers of the 2.0 / transitional ideological parties. The lack of a genetic ability to produce Vitamin C is neither a bug nor an issue for the mammals that do not possess it. In all cases, either the mammal in question gains from the lack [i.e. the lack has driven forward other behaviours that have proved more beneficial whilst searching out sources of Vit C, e.g. dextral abilities to harvest fruit from trees in the case of some early primates] or is neutrally aligned to it [i.e. Vit C is already a mainstay of their diet, so there is never a lack of it, e.g. fruitivores]. The proof? They. Fucking. Survived. For. Millions / 100' Thousand Years. This is only a "bug" when you add in a modern [last 3000 years] lifestyle where fruit / veg is a "limited resource". >> The "bug" is not the inability to produce Vit C, the real bug is living in a system that doesn't allow easy access to Vit C. Living on a ship off worm-riddled meat for a year? That's an environmental problem. Same goes for inner city "food deserts" where Walmart has stomped on any and all local garden produce. Category error. Sheesh, I'd have hoped you people were more intelligent than this. [and for the record: producing Vit C chemically is a hella lot easier than genotyping in a fix, you fucking moron]

derleth 15y ago
You're being downvoted because your arguments sound like post-hoc rationalizations and you're adopting a very combative, insulting tone. Mainly the second one, to be honest.
- UseofWeapons 15y ago
  http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14962674 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14962674 I can provide many more: this "bug" is a field of science that many, many papers have addressed: I'm being downvoted because few people here are mature enough to do their own research and instead prefer a "cool, wacky, zeitgeist" take on it. Trust me: about 100 years of biology has been done on this "bug". The OP piece is a joke.
  - derleth 15y ago
    You're still coming off as as really, really insulting. That doesn't help you get your point across. Besides, you're missing the main point, which is "Wow human biology is a huge mess." Did you read the part about the same hormone being related to both blood pressure and pair-bonding?
UseofWeapons 15y ago
-2? This Angel is getting a good 'vibe' for the average user already ~ and here we were thinking this was different from Reddit or Zero Hedge. >Here's a tip: if you downvote, add a response to the why, otherwise, we ignore your input<
- DanBC 15y ago
  You got a response; your first post had an awful tone not suited for HN. You can do better.
- enko 15y ago
  > Sheesh, I'd have hoped you people were more intelligent than this. "You people"? Really? I wonder who you are imagining "you people" to be? > and here we were thinking this was different from Reddit or Zero Hedge Well, you're wrong. Still humans, I'm afraid, a lot of them, in a wide range of shades and dispositions. "Use of Weapons" is one of my favourite books, if you're going to assume its name as your HN identity then please do it justice.
JeffL 15y ago
The posting guidelines are here: http://ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html http://ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html "Be civil. Don't say things you wouldn't say in a face to face conversation." "Resist complaining about being downmodded. It never does any good, and it makes boring reading." Also, your post uses a lot of symbols as well as some poor punctuation, capitalization, sentence fragments, and abbreviations, which makes the general quality aside from the contents poor overall. Comments on HN tend to be well written. Think snail mail and not text message for style.

derleth 15y ago

You're being downvoted because your arguments sound like post-hoc rationalizations and you're adopting a very combative, insulting tone. Mainly the second one, to be honest.

UseofWeapons 15y ago
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14962674 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14962674 I can provide many more: this "bug" is a field of science that many, many papers have addressed: I'm being downvoted because few people here are mature enough to do their own research and instead prefer a "cool, wacky, zeitgeist" take on it. Trust me: about 100 years of biology has been done on this "bug". The OP piece is a joke.
- derleth 15y ago
  You're still coming off as as really, really insulting. That doesn't help you get your point across. Besides, you're missing the main point, which is "Wow human biology is a huge mess." Did you read the part about the same hormone being related to both blood pressure and pair-bonding?

UseofWeapons 15y ago

-2? This Angel is getting a good 'vibe' for the average user already ~ and here we were thinking this was different from Reddit or Zero Hedge. >Here's a tip: if you downvote, add a response to the why, otherwise, we ignore your input<

DanBC 15y ago
You got a response; your first post had an awful tone not suited for HN. You can do better.
enko 15y ago
> Sheesh, I'd have hoped you people were more intelligent than this. "You people"? Really? I wonder who you are imagining "you people" to be? > and here we were thinking this was different from Reddit or Zero Hedge Well, you're wrong. Still humans, I'm afraid, a lot of them, in a wide range of shades and dispositions. "Use of Weapons" is one of my favourite books, if you're going to assume its name as your HN identity then please do it justice.

JeffL 15y ago

The posting guidelines are here: http://ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html http://ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html "Be civil. Don't say things you wouldn't say in a face to face conversation." "Resist complaining about being downmodded. It never does any good, and it makes boring reading." Also, your post uses a lot of symbols as well as some poor punctuation, capitalization, sentence fragments, and abbreviations, which makes the general quality aside from the contents poor overall. Comments on HN tend to be well written. Think snail mail and not text message for style.