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Easy solution. Start arresting people that steal, shoot it drugs in public, Etc. Keep them in jail for a long time if they keep doing it.

KptMarchewa 3y ago
If that solution is so simple, wouldn't the country with highest incarceration rate be the safest?
- yadaeno 3y ago
  Most crime is committed by a very small percentage of the population and putting them into prisons works. El Salvador started throwing criminals in a prison mega complex and murder rate has dropped by 50%. And to answer your question, no because there are other variables. Some populations simply have a larger share of criminals. https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/el-salvador-murders-plummet-by-over-half-2022-amid-gang-crackdown-2023-01-03/ https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/el-salvador-murders-p...
- refurb 3y ago
  No because if you throw people in jail for some crimes but not others you're not solving anything.
- colechristensen 3y ago
  Singapore is very thorough about law enforcement (to the extent of going beyond what would seem to most people to be fair and respecting rights) and as such has very little crime and is among the safest places in the world. How you enforce laws effects the crime rate, having your jails full doesn’t mean you have effective law enforcement.
  - theossuary 3y ago
    ~80% of Singapore citizens live in subsidized government owned housing, with rent control, etc. They also require each neighborhood to meet quotas of the different ethnic groups to ensure there are no single race enclaves. But yeah, keep pretending the solution to crime is hard-line policing, and not public policy. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_housing_in_Singapore https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_housing_in_Singapore
    - twelve40 3y ago
      but sf is the opposite of hard-line policing. its also one of the most diverse cities in the land, with maybe only Bayview as the only major enclave. still the downtown looks like a warzone and is abandoned by businesses.
refurb 3y ago
That's just crazy talk!
mandrizzle 3y ago
Easier solution is to pay the organized crime leaders to not do crime

KptMarchewa 3y ago

If that solution is so simple, wouldn't the country with highest incarceration rate be the safest?

yadaeno 3y ago
Most crime is committed by a very small percentage of the population and putting them into prisons works. El Salvador started throwing criminals in a prison mega complex and murder rate has dropped by 50%. And to answer your question, no because there are other variables. Some populations simply have a larger share of criminals. https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/el-salvador-murders-plummet-by-over-half-2022-amid-gang-crackdown-2023-01-03/ https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/el-salvador-murders-p...
refurb 3y ago
No because if you throw people in jail for some crimes but not others you're not solving anything.
colechristensen 3y ago
Singapore is very thorough about law enforcement (to the extent of going beyond what would seem to most people to be fair and respecting rights) and as such has very little crime and is among the safest places in the world. How you enforce laws effects the crime rate, having your jails full doesn’t mean you have effective law enforcement.
- theossuary 3y ago
  ~80% of Singapore citizens live in subsidized government owned housing, with rent control, etc. They also require each neighborhood to meet quotas of the different ethnic groups to ensure there are no single race enclaves. But yeah, keep pretending the solution to crime is hard-line policing, and not public policy. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_housing_in_Singapore https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_housing_in_Singapore
  - twelve40 3y ago
    but sf is the opposite of hard-line policing. its also one of the most diverse cities in the land, with maybe only Bayview as the only major enclave. still the downtown looks like a warzone and is abandoned by businesses.

refurb 3y ago

That's just crazy talk!

mandrizzle 3y ago

Easier solution is to pay the organized crime leaders to not do crime