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It seems to me like this is turning into a subreddit migration in slow motion. A lot people still want to post content and a lot of people still want to read co

It seems to me like this is turning into a subreddit migration in slow motion. A lot people still want to post content and a lot of people still want to read content, so what's happening is people are posting it to the less popular 'alternative' versions of the popular subreddits and those posts make the frontpage instead. It seems like there is a noticeable decline in quality but i'm still seeing quite a bit of posting. Not sure if it's having the intended impact or not. I think the missing thing here is a viable, popular alternative. Digg died because reddit existed. If there was a consensus on the next reddit I would think reddit should be much more worried.

rvba 3y ago
I think HN is experiencing a lot more traffic too
- bbor 3y ago
  It's been very interesting, and part of that is my fault - been posting a lot here instead of reddit (when I should probably just post nowhere). The vote counts seem crazy high this week, even for typical stories. I will say that I haven't noticed a decline in quality of posts; not sure if that's due to a strong culture or strict moderation. I suppose most of the Reddit refugees only browse the HN homepage, so HN veterans still have an out sized impact on the New page, which in turn dictates what can reach the top.
pcurve 3y ago
Yep, I'm seeing smaller subs being bubbled up on my front page. Maybe people will start creating their own subs. There is Saidit https://www.saidit.net/ https://www.saidit.net/ but it's not really a viable alternative.
- maxsilver 3y ago
  I'm not sure why those folks would bother leaving, Saidit is basically identical to what an unmoderated Reddit would look like.
rblatz 3y ago
Also most people don’t really care about the API/3rd party app thing. It doesn’t impact them and it looks from the outside like a bunch of dorks with no lives getting worked up over nothing. I’ve been on Reddit since the digg migration and I’ve never felt the need for an app, old.reddit.com and Adblock works perfectly fine on the phone. Better than Reddit’s mobile site.
- emptyfile 3y ago
  Yeah that's the whole reason why subs are shutting down. Because the mods care, even if their users don't.
  - kzrdude 3y ago
    Users like a good riot though
  - riku_iki 3y ago
    but users are main contributors of content. Should they be asked at least?
    - throw16180339 3y ago
      I'm not sure about other subs, but we asked our users about continuing the blackout.
      - riku_iki 3y ago
        one of my favorite subs didn't ask
- evertedsphere 3y ago
  old.reddit.com isn't going to be around for much longer, is the thing
- ndnxncncnfjdjd 3y ago
  That's all well and good for now, but surely you can see that old.reddit.com is likely also on the chopping block?
VWWHFSfQ 3y ago
It's because the Reddit users that are actually bothered by this are unmonetizable and everyone knows it. nobody is eager to jump into that sink hole and Reddit itself is happy to be free of it. A Reddit alternative is something every developer on here thinks they can crank out in a weekend and surely countless of them are actually trying that right now. But the reality is that reddit is a mess and nobody in their right mind wants to try to run a site like that.
- isykt 3y ago
  > It's because the Reddit users that are actually bothered by this are unmonetizable and everyone knows it. Yes, this is exactly the same as the Netflix account sharing controversy. People who aren’t generating the company any profit are shouting the loudest. I don’t think there’s much of a loss here. The era of free money was always going to end and now it’s over.
  - organsnyder 3y ago
    But those people are also generating a large amount of the content that is being used to monetize users.
    - s1artibartfast 3y ago
      That's a claim, but only time will tell to what degree it is accurate. Some people certainly want to continue continue creating content and we will see the degree to which they figure out alternative subreddits if the blackout continues
    - isykt 3y ago
      It’s not clear there’s anything “unique” about the set of users that both generate the content and will leave the site because of the API changes. From an investor standpoint, content is content and monetizeable users are monetizable users. Both are replaceable, and it’s better to have monetizable users that generate content than non-monentizeable users who generate content.
ghostpepper 3y ago
Just don't tell them that this place exists or we could have an eternal september situation on HN.
- generic92034 3y ago
  "There is another theory which states that this has already happened." ;)
- AmVess 3y ago
  That happened a long time ago.
  - cubefox 3y ago
    2012 account, seems credible.
- stiltzkin 3y ago
  HN is already in Eternal September for a while. 10 years ago HN was different.
  - daniel-cussen 3y ago
    [dead]
  - deleted 3y ago
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AmVess 3y ago
This is exactly what is happening. People simply go to other subs to read and post.
- riku_iki 3y ago
  but lots of valuable information created by community from old subs gone.
blindflip 3y ago
One of the other places that has strong niche communities is discord. It seems like a good time for discord to release a product that could compete.
- jjoonathan 3y ago
  Ugh. Discord makes api-fee-reddit look positively wall-free by comparison.
  - aluminussoma 3y ago
    Because they respect your privacy and don't feel the need to plaster your comment in every search engine?
    - pseudalopex 3y ago
      Requiring my phone number does not respect my privacy. Reddit users can create as many identities as they wish.
    - micromacrofoot 3y ago
      oh wow are we now in the "finding information is bad actually" phase of the internet?
      - ninth_ant 3y ago
        Mastodon believes this and willfully denies search functionality. Tech built to search Mastodon (https://fedsearch.io/ https://fedsearch.io/) was aggressively decried as violating privacy and such. So yes, there is certainly at least a vocal subset of people who believe that "finding information is bad actually" and deliberately building tech along those lines.
- dawnerd 3y ago
  Can’t stand discord, it’s too noisy. Joined one server from a subreddit and the mod team @everyones all. The. Time.
codetrotter 3y ago
> a viable, popular alternative Popular? No. Viable? Yes. Try https://zapad.nstr.no/ https://zapad.nstr.no/ it’s my instance. If even a handful of people would join I think that would be nice.
- silverbax88 3y ago
  Will you be adding the ability to create communities?
  - codetrotter 3y ago
    Yes.
- jtode 3y ago
  Since you've got insight into operating, can you clarify for me: Does federation happen at the community level? So for instance, using reddit terminology, if I subscribe to r/gardening on your instance, do I get the same thing as everyone else gets in r/gardening on all the instances you federate with? I'm clear on federation in general but not how it works for link aggregation. I've been reddit-free for about a year now but I've been planning to check out Lemmy once the current wave dies down and I'm not contributing to load stress.
  - codetrotter 3y ago
    The communities you see on my instance so far are communities that have been created on that instance specifically. So https://zapad.nstr.no/c/rust https://zapad.nstr.no/c/rust is distinct from for example https://programming.dev/c/rust https://programming.dev/c/rust I have added some other instances to my list of allowed instances and these are now showing up as linked instances in https://zapad.nstr.no/instances https://zapad.nstr.no/instances I have seen other people leave comments on posts across instances but I have not yet figured out how I can use my user on my instance to leave a comment on another instance According to https://join-lemmy.org/docs/en/administration/federation_getting_started.html https://join-lemmy.org/docs/en/administration/federation_get... whole communities are able to federate as well. But I have not yet understood how this works, heh. Edit: Same page has some more details: > One way you can take advantage of federation is by opening a different instance, like ds9.lemmy.ml, and browsing it. If you see an interesting community, post or user that you want to interact with, just copy its URL and paste it into the search of your own instance. Your instance will connect to the other one (assuming the allowlist/blocklist allows it), and directly display the remote content to you, so that you can follow a community or comment on a post. Here are some examples of working searches > !main@lemmy.ml (Community) > @nutomic@lemmy.ml (User) > https://lemmy.ml/c/programming https://lemmy.ml/c/programming (Community) > https://lemmy.ml/u/nutomic https://lemmy.ml/u/nutomic (User) > https://lemmy.ml/post/123 https://lemmy.ml/post/123 (Post) > https://lemmy.ml/comment/321 https://lemmy.ml/comment/321 (Comment) and > If you search for a community first time, 20 posts are fetched initially. Only if a least one user on your instance subscribes to the remote community, will the community send updates to your instance. Updates include: > New posts, comments > Votes > Post, comment edits and deletions > Mod actions > You can copy the URL of the community from the address bar in your browser and insert it in your search field. Wait a few seconds, the post will appear below. At the moment there is no loading indicator for the search, so wait a few seconds if it shows "no results".
s1artibartfast 3y ago
Yeah, it's an interesting experiment and democracy and or authoritarianism. Subreddit mods have made the decision to take the subs private. There seems to be some popular support but it isn't Universal. Those that don't care about the issue can recreate those subs and continue posting. It will be interesting to see how things play out over time. Edit: is interesting to note the knee jerk negative reaction to this comment. I don't think it contains anything controversial and is a simple statement of reality
adeon 3y ago
I think even though there is no consensus on the next Reddit, this might be another inflection point in Reddit downhill. It might not die on short term but I think being super crappy to your userbase makes you more vulnerable to future competition. I'm thinking something like what Tiktok did to Instagram or Facebook. I am really hoping the next Reddit is not some megacorp effort.
mc32 3y ago
I wonder if that will affect the management of the subs. Some mods had what we may call agendas but mods in alternate subs may have different agendas (obviously since one is protesting and the other not), but this could also affect the course of subs and could differ from what people were used to (hammer the nail that sticks out vs oil the squeaky wheel approaches)
causi 3y ago
Yes, I've seen more than one subreddit who barely had enough users to keep going do the indefinite shutdown thing and it's just going to kill the community.
cactus2093 3y ago
I agree with all of that, but honestly the more important factor is this is just not a very good cause to get all worked up about. Reddit is trying to grow into a profitable company, their business model is showing ads to users, they obviously can't just let millions of people use 3rd party apps for free. I think even casual users understand this perfectly well. They don't use 3rd party apps for browsing Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, or Tiktok (because those services also don't offer APIs). Why should Reddit be different?
- Ataraxic 3y ago
  Reddit is different because it has been different. Not everything needs to conform prior social media models. I think the cause is totally fine. I think framing it as some social justice cause is incorrect though. People really liked a thing and now reddit is taking it away in the name of money. The most downvoted post of all time on reddit is an EA post responding to monetization concerns in a star wars game. Seems right in line to me.
jayd16 3y ago
I feel like this is somewhat of an indictment of Mastodon. Maybe its not a 1:1 replacements but I feel like they could be capitalizing on this moment and it feels like they're not in the conversation.
hedora 3y ago
I've posted this a few times, but there's a snapshot of reddit from 2017 that you can self host: https://github.com/reddit-archive/reddit https://github.com/reddit-archive/reddit Why not just do that? Sure, it's a lot of python, and probably full of security holes, but there are enough reddit users to fix that, and the risk that your reddit instance might be taken over by malicious people is lower than the risk that centralized reddit will (since it already has been...) Anyway, each time I link to it, I get crickets in response. Not sure why.
- JustBreath 3y ago
  Pretty sure the short version is there's a lot more to hosting Reddit than just standing up a server. It's a slow process that involves building up communities and trust to hit a critical mass. Pure speculation, but I think Reddit will continue to decline, it'll just be a while longer before everyone migrates from it.
- jtode 3y ago
  Maybe because there's a fediverse.
- slumberlust 3y ago
  I would think people are hesitant to go down the exact same road as before. How will this address long-term scaling costs and concerns of the new-reddit repeating current-reddit's path?
dsir 3y ago
To echo what another commenter said, I feel like a lot of the suggested alternatives are missing the mark a bit in regards to understanding what Reddit actually is (a community of communities). It seems like a lot of the platforms that are popping up are more akin to being just a huge bucket full of posts with hashtags opposed to being a collection of communities. They are sort of missing out on capturing the community part. Shameless plug, but that's been a focus of ours with the platform that I've been building (sociables.com). We are trying to create an all in one stop for people to create communities, and not just posts. Here's an example of a community on the platform: https://sociables.com/community/Sports/board/trending https://sociables.com/community/Sports/board/trending
seydor 3y ago
The motion is very slow though. How do I even find alternative subreddits? Most subreddits do not allow cross-advertising anyway and reddit's search tool is total garbage. I don't think reddit needs to be replaced, but they need to change some things. All subreddits are replaceable, and so are mods so i don't see the point of this protest
ghusto 3y ago
Yup. I unsubscribe from the blacked out subs (they free to go dark, but I'm equally free to leave when they do), and sign up to the new or less popular ones that are still working. I have no skin in the game, and couldn't care less either way what happens to Reddit company, the subs, their third party apps, or the moderators.
sixothree 3y ago
To support your observation, I've noticed posts getting many more upvotes than normal in the subreddits I subscribe to.
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Forgeties79 3y ago
Interesting enough Tumblr has had a big surge in users the last few days, they’re pretty convinced it’s mostly redditors. I don’t know how big of a surge it is, and of course Tumblr is not Reddit to say the least, but people are definitely poking around. It’s interesting!
bsder 3y ago
> If there was a consensus on the next reddit I would think reddit should be much more worried. I think Reddit should be very worried. Federation works fine for a "forum-like" replacement that doesn't need to be super timely. Yes, the federated replacement is currently half-baked. You're not going to pick up the unwashed masses this round. However, more than a few technical sub-Reddits that have simply shut down and are not coming back. The technical users didn't care much for Reddit to begin with and don't mind putting in some elbow grease to permanently kick Reddit to the curb. Lots of technical people now suddenly know about Lemmy who didn't have any clue before. I have no doubt that Reddit will win this round, but it's a Pyrrhic victory. A nice chunk of software development talent is now mobilized to build the thing to wipe them out. To be fair, I don't think the CEO is actually wrong. The AI companies are absolutely free-riding on everybody and that needs to stop. However, the way it was done with the API was not kosher--I suspect had he just grandfathered everybody using the API prior to date <X>, everything would have been fine.
marcod 3y ago
> Digg died because reddit existed. Sorry, but digg died because they told their community in unmistakable terms (aka v4) that they don't matter. Reddit happened to be there to take the refugees.

rvba 3y ago

I think HN is experiencing a lot more traffic too

bbor 3y ago
It's been very interesting, and part of that is my fault - been posting a lot here instead of reddit (when I should probably just post nowhere). The vote counts seem crazy high this week, even for typical stories. I will say that I haven't noticed a decline in quality of posts; not sure if that's due to a strong culture or strict moderation. I suppose most of the Reddit refugees only browse the HN homepage, so HN veterans still have an out sized impact on the New page, which in turn dictates what can reach the top.

pcurve 3y ago

Yep, I'm seeing smaller subs being bubbled up on my front page. Maybe people will start creating their own subs. There is Saidit https://www.saidit.net/ https://www.saidit.net/ but it's not really a viable alternative.

maxsilver 3y ago
I'm not sure why those folks would bother leaving, Saidit is basically identical to what an unmoderated Reddit would look like.

rblatz 3y ago

Also most people don’t really care about the API/3rd party app thing. It doesn’t impact them and it looks from the outside like a bunch of dorks with no lives getting worked up over nothing. I’ve been on Reddit since the digg migration and I’ve never felt the need for an app, old.reddit.com and Adblock works perfectly fine on the phone. Better than Reddit’s mobile site.

emptyfile 3y ago
Yeah that's the whole reason why subs are shutting down. Because the mods care, even if their users don't.
- kzrdude 3y ago
  Users like a good riot though
- riku_iki 3y ago
  but users are main contributors of content. Should they be asked at least?
  - throw16180339 3y ago
    I'm not sure about other subs, but we asked our users about continuing the blackout.
    - riku_iki 3y ago
      one of my favorite subs didn't ask
evertedsphere 3y ago
old.reddit.com isn't going to be around for much longer, is the thing
ndnxncncnfjdjd 3y ago
That's all well and good for now, but surely you can see that old.reddit.com is likely also on the chopping block?

VWWHFSfQ 3y ago

It's because the Reddit users that are actually bothered by this are unmonetizable and everyone knows it. nobody is eager to jump into that sink hole and Reddit itself is happy to be free of it. A Reddit alternative is something every developer on here thinks they can crank out in a weekend and surely countless of them are actually trying that right now. But the reality is that reddit is a mess and nobody in their right mind wants to try to run a site like that.

isykt 3y ago
> It's because the Reddit users that are actually bothered by this are unmonetizable and everyone knows it. Yes, this is exactly the same as the Netflix account sharing controversy. People who aren’t generating the company any profit are shouting the loudest. I don’t think there’s much of a loss here. The era of free money was always going to end and now it’s over.
- organsnyder 3y ago
  But those people are also generating a large amount of the content that is being used to monetize users.
  - s1artibartfast 3y ago
    That's a claim, but only time will tell to what degree it is accurate. Some people certainly want to continue continue creating content and we will see the degree to which they figure out alternative subreddits if the blackout continues
  - isykt 3y ago
    It’s not clear there’s anything “unique” about the set of users that both generate the content and will leave the site because of the API changes. From an investor standpoint, content is content and monetizeable users are monetizable users. Both are replaceable, and it’s better to have monetizable users that generate content than non-monentizeable users who generate content.

ghostpepper 3y ago

Just don't tell them that this place exists or we could have an eternal september situation on HN.

generic92034 3y ago
"There is another theory which states that this has already happened." ;)
AmVess 3y ago
That happened a long time ago.
- cubefox 3y ago
  2012 account, seems credible.
stiltzkin 3y ago
HN is already in Eternal September for a while. 10 years ago HN was different.
- daniel-cussen 3y ago
  [dead]
- deleted 3y ago
  [deleted]

AmVess 3y ago

This is exactly what is happening. People simply go to other subs to read and post.

riku_iki 3y ago
but lots of valuable information created by community from old subs gone.

blindflip 3y ago

One of the other places that has strong niche communities is discord. It seems like a good time for discord to release a product that could compete.

jjoonathan 3y ago
Ugh. Discord makes api-fee-reddit look positively wall-free by comparison.
- aluminussoma 3y ago
  Because they respect your privacy and don't feel the need to plaster your comment in every search engine?
  - pseudalopex 3y ago
    Requiring my phone number does not respect my privacy. Reddit users can create as many identities as they wish.
  - micromacrofoot 3y ago
    oh wow are we now in the "finding information is bad actually" phase of the internet?
    - ninth_ant 3y ago
      Mastodon believes this and willfully denies search functionality. Tech built to search Mastodon (https://fedsearch.io/ https://fedsearch.io/) was aggressively decried as violating privacy and such. So yes, there is certainly at least a vocal subset of people who believe that "finding information is bad actually" and deliberately building tech along those lines.
dawnerd 3y ago
Can’t stand discord, it’s too noisy. Joined one server from a subreddit and the mod team @everyones all. The. Time.

codetrotter 3y ago

> a viable, popular alternative Popular? No. Viable? Yes. Try https://zapad.nstr.no/ https://zapad.nstr.no/ it’s my instance. If even a handful of people would join I think that would be nice.

silverbax88 3y ago
Will you be adding the ability to create communities?
- codetrotter 3y ago
  Yes.
jtode 3y ago
Since you've got insight into operating, can you clarify for me: Does federation happen at the community level? So for instance, using reddit terminology, if I subscribe to r/gardening on your instance, do I get the same thing as everyone else gets in r/gardening on all the instances you federate with? I'm clear on federation in general but not how it works for link aggregation. I've been reddit-free for about a year now but I've been planning to check out Lemmy once the current wave dies down and I'm not contributing to load stress.
- codetrotter 3y ago
  The communities you see on my instance so far are communities that have been created on that instance specifically. So https://zapad.nstr.no/c/rust https://zapad.nstr.no/c/rust is distinct from for example https://programming.dev/c/rust https://programming.dev/c/rust I have added some other instances to my list of allowed instances and these are now showing up as linked instances in https://zapad.nstr.no/instances https://zapad.nstr.no/instances I have seen other people leave comments on posts across instances but I have not yet figured out how I can use my user on my instance to leave a comment on another instance According to https://join-lemmy.org/docs/en/administration/federation_getting_started.html https://join-lemmy.org/docs/en/administration/federation_get... whole communities are able to federate as well. But I have not yet understood how this works, heh. Edit: Same page has some more details: > One way you can take advantage of federation is by opening a different instance, like ds9.lemmy.ml, and browsing it. If you see an interesting community, post or user that you want to interact with, just copy its URL and paste it into the search of your own instance. Your instance will connect to the other one (assuming the allowlist/blocklist allows it), and directly display the remote content to you, so that you can follow a community or comment on a post. Here are some examples of working searches > !main@lemmy.ml (Community) > @nutomic@lemmy.ml (User) > https://lemmy.ml/c/programming https://lemmy.ml/c/programming (Community) > https://lemmy.ml/u/nutomic https://lemmy.ml/u/nutomic (User) > https://lemmy.ml/post/123 https://lemmy.ml/post/123 (Post) > https://lemmy.ml/comment/321 https://lemmy.ml/comment/321 (Comment) and > If you search for a community first time, 20 posts are fetched initially. Only if a least one user on your instance subscribes to the remote community, will the community send updates to your instance. Updates include: > New posts, comments > Votes > Post, comment edits and deletions > Mod actions > You can copy the URL of the community from the address bar in your browser and insert it in your search field. Wait a few seconds, the post will appear below. At the moment there is no loading indicator for the search, so wait a few seconds if it shows "no results".

s1artibartfast 3y ago

Yeah, it's an interesting experiment and democracy and or authoritarianism. Subreddit mods have made the decision to take the subs private. There seems to be some popular support but it isn't Universal. Those that don't care about the issue can recreate those subs and continue posting. It will be interesting to see how things play out over time. Edit: is interesting to note the knee jerk negative reaction to this comment. I don't think it contains anything controversial and is a simple statement of reality

adeon 3y ago

I think even though there is no consensus on the next Reddit, this might be another inflection point in Reddit downhill. It might not die on short term but I think being super crappy to your userbase makes you more vulnerable to future competition. I'm thinking something like what Tiktok did to Instagram or Facebook. I am really hoping the next Reddit is not some megacorp effort.

mc32 3y ago

I wonder if that will affect the management of the subs. Some mods had what we may call agendas but mods in alternate subs may have different agendas (obviously since one is protesting and the other not), but this could also affect the course of subs and could differ from what people were used to (hammer the nail that sticks out vs oil the squeaky wheel approaches)

causi 3y ago

Yes, I've seen more than one subreddit who barely had enough users to keep going do the indefinite shutdown thing and it's just going to kill the community.

cactus2093 3y ago

I agree with all of that, but honestly the more important factor is this is just not a very good cause to get all worked up about. Reddit is trying to grow into a profitable company, their business model is showing ads to users, they obviously can't just let millions of people use 3rd party apps for free. I think even casual users understand this perfectly well. They don't use 3rd party apps for browsing Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, or Tiktok (because those services also don't offer APIs). Why should Reddit be different?

Ataraxic 3y ago
Reddit is different because it has been different. Not everything needs to conform prior social media models. I think the cause is totally fine. I think framing it as some social justice cause is incorrect though. People really liked a thing and now reddit is taking it away in the name of money. The most downvoted post of all time on reddit is an EA post responding to monetization concerns in a star wars game. Seems right in line to me.

jayd16 3y ago

I feel like this is somewhat of an indictment of Mastodon. Maybe its not a 1:1 replacements but I feel like they could be capitalizing on this moment and it feels like they're not in the conversation.

hedora 3y ago

I've posted this a few times, but there's a snapshot of reddit from 2017 that you can self host: https://github.com/reddit-archive/reddit https://github.com/reddit-archive/reddit Why not just do that? Sure, it's a lot of python, and probably full of security holes, but there are enough reddit users to fix that, and the risk that your reddit instance might be taken over by malicious people is lower than the risk that centralized reddit will (since it already has been...) Anyway, each time I link to it, I get crickets in response. Not sure why.

JustBreath 3y ago
Pretty sure the short version is there's a lot more to hosting Reddit than just standing up a server. It's a slow process that involves building up communities and trust to hit a critical mass. Pure speculation, but I think Reddit will continue to decline, it'll just be a while longer before everyone migrates from it.
jtode 3y ago
Maybe because there's a fediverse.
slumberlust 3y ago
I would think people are hesitant to go down the exact same road as before. How will this address long-term scaling costs and concerns of the new-reddit repeating current-reddit's path?

dsir 3y ago

To echo what another commenter said, I feel like a lot of the suggested alternatives are missing the mark a bit in regards to understanding what Reddit actually is (a community of communities). It seems like a lot of the platforms that are popping up are more akin to being just a huge bucket full of posts with hashtags opposed to being a collection of communities. They are sort of missing out on capturing the community part. Shameless plug, but that's been a focus of ours with the platform that I've been building (sociables.com). We are trying to create an all in one stop for people to create communities, and not just posts. Here's an example of a community on the platform: https://sociables.com/community/Sports/board/trending https://sociables.com/community/Sports/board/trending

seydor 3y ago

The motion is very slow though. How do I even find alternative subreddits? Most subreddits do not allow cross-advertising anyway and reddit's search tool is total garbage. I don't think reddit needs to be replaced, but they need to change some things. All subreddits are replaceable, and so are mods so i don't see the point of this protest

ghusto 3y ago

Yup. I unsubscribe from the blacked out subs (they free to go dark, but I'm equally free to leave when they do), and sign up to the new or less popular ones that are still working. I have no skin in the game, and couldn't care less either way what happens to Reddit company, the subs, their third party apps, or the moderators.

sixothree 3y ago

To support your observation, I've noticed posts getting many more upvotes than normal in the subreddits I subscribe to.

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Forgeties79 3y ago

Interesting enough Tumblr has had a big surge in users the last few days, they’re pretty convinced it’s mostly redditors. I don’t know how big of a surge it is, and of course Tumblr is not Reddit to say the least, but people are definitely poking around. It’s interesting!

bsder 3y ago

> If there was a consensus on the next reddit I would think reddit should be much more worried. I think Reddit should be very worried. Federation works fine for a "forum-like" replacement that doesn't need to be super timely. Yes, the federated replacement is currently half-baked. You're not going to pick up the unwashed masses this round. However, more than a few technical sub-Reddits that have simply shut down and are not coming back. The technical users didn't care much for Reddit to begin with and don't mind putting in some elbow grease to permanently kick Reddit to the curb. Lots of technical people now suddenly know about Lemmy who didn't have any clue before. I have no doubt that Reddit will win this round, but it's a Pyrrhic victory. A nice chunk of software development talent is now mobilized to build the thing to wipe them out. To be fair, I don't think the CEO is actually wrong. The AI companies are absolutely free-riding on everybody and that needs to stop. However, the way it was done with the API was not kosher--I suspect had he just grandfathered everybody using the API prior to date <X>, everything would have been fine.

marcod 3y ago

> Digg died because reddit existed. Sorry, but digg died because they told their community in unmistakable terms (aka v4) that they don't matter. Reddit happened to be there to take the refugees.