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No, the members of /r/startrek are vowing to not use Reddit anymore. /r/startrek will be considered abandoned and given to anyone who asks for it. Reddit will

by Zetice 3y ago

No, the members of /r/startrek are vowing to not use Reddit anymore. /r/startrek will be considered abandoned and given to anyone who asks for it. Reddit will take it away from these mods and I don't blame them. Maybe nobody will use it, but some people probably will, people who don't give a shit about stupid Internet wars and just want to read about and discuss things Star Trek. ...which, believe it or not, is most people. Mod wars are uninteresting to the 90% who don't even make accounts.

DevAntoine 3y ago
This is not solely about "mod wars" as you say. It's about being unable to use third party apps which are way better than the official Reddit app.
- cogman10 3y ago
  It will be interesting to see how this plays out. 3rd party apps is the primary way I consume reddit. I'll probably stop consuming them after the shutoff date (or lightly consume their data since It'll only happen when I'm at a desktop). I'm not going to install reddit's official app.
nerdix 3y ago
I came in here to say exactly this. The mods don't own the subreddit. Reddit isn't just going to go "well, guess we can't have a Startrek sub with the most obvious name for one because the mods of /r/startrek don't want to use reddit anymore." The reinstated reddit sub will very quickly overtake the Lemmy sub in activity. Many of the posters who went to Lemmy will slowly migrate back to reddit. The mods will have lost their "power" over a very popular subreddit with nothing to show for it. That's how the mod wars end. Many mods will voluntarily end the boycott once it becomes clear that there thousands of people who will happily take their place. Maybe Reddit throws them a bone by allowing an exception for Apollo and a few other popular third party clients so the mods can save face (or maybe not).
- fsflover 3y ago
  > The mods don't own the subreddit. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36341470 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36341470
  - Zetice 3y ago
    The mods of Reddit are 100% replaceable, and not comparable to HN moderation, mainly because HN pays dang and he is specifically accountable for maintaining the site. If dang did poorly enough for long enough, he'd be replaced (or they'd shut HN down). Also, there isn't nearly as much special about HN as some people seem to think. It's prone to every one of the same issues Reddit has, the incentives are just aligned differently for dang.
    - fsflover 3y ago
      See also: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36356957 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36356957
      - Zetice 3y ago
        See what? These aren't arguments, you're linking to the general discussion.
        fsflover 3y ago
        Mods are definitely replaceable, but the new ones will likely not be as enthusiastic and the community will suffer.
ahahahahah 3y ago
> the members of /r/startrek are vowing to not use Reddit anymore Oh, I don't see evidence of that. At best this looks like the *mods* of /r/startrek are making that vow.
- Zetice 3y ago
  Great point, mods are acting like the users support them, when in reality a tiny handful support them extremely loudly, but it's unclear how the vast majority of users feel.

by Zetice 3y ago

DevAntoine 3y ago

This is not solely about "mod wars" as you say. It's about being unable to use third party apps which are way better than the official Reddit app.

cogman10 3y ago
It will be interesting to see how this plays out. 3rd party apps is the primary way I consume reddit. I'll probably stop consuming them after the shutoff date (or lightly consume their data since It'll only happen when I'm at a desktop). I'm not going to install reddit's official app.

nerdix 3y ago

I came in here to say exactly this. The mods don't own the subreddit. Reddit isn't just going to go "well, guess we can't have a Startrek sub with the most obvious name for one because the mods of /r/startrek don't want to use reddit anymore." The reinstated reddit sub will very quickly overtake the Lemmy sub in activity. Many of the posters who went to Lemmy will slowly migrate back to reddit. The mods will have lost their "power" over a very popular subreddit with nothing to show for it. That's how the mod wars end. Many mods will voluntarily end the boycott once it becomes clear that there thousands of people who will happily take their place. Maybe Reddit throws them a bone by allowing an exception for Apollo and a few other popular third party clients so the mods can save face (or maybe not).

fsflover 3y ago
> The mods don't own the subreddit. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36341470 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36341470
- Zetice 3y ago
  The mods of Reddit are 100% replaceable, and not comparable to HN moderation, mainly because HN pays dang and he is specifically accountable for maintaining the site. If dang did poorly enough for long enough, he'd be replaced (or they'd shut HN down). Also, there isn't nearly as much special about HN as some people seem to think. It's prone to every one of the same issues Reddit has, the incentives are just aligned differently for dang.
  - fsflover 3y ago
    See also: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36356957 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36356957
    - Zetice 3y ago
      See what? These aren't arguments, you're linking to the general discussion.
      - fsflover 3y ago
        Mods are definitely replaceable, but the new ones will likely not be as enthusiastic and the community will suffer.

ahahahahah 3y ago

> the members of /r/startrek are vowing to not use Reddit anymore Oh, I don't see evidence of that. At best this looks like the *mods* of /r/startrek are making that vow.

Zetice 3y ago
Great point, mods are acting like the users support them, when in reality a tiny handful support them extremely loudly, but it's unclear how the vast majority of users feel.