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I got banned from there because I didn't like Discovery. You have a top secret ultra elite experimental ship with a spore drive... with what? Something somethi

I got banned from there because I didn't like Discovery. You have a top secret ultra elite experimental ship with a spore drive... with what? Something something tardigrades? But then your crew is a criminal, cadet Tilly?, everyone is unstable/untrustworthy, and a rather high concentration of LGBT people? But you get banned for pointing this out.

q1w2 3y ago
I'm with you. Discovery wasn't watchable.
remram 3y ago
It would make sense for the LGBT+ rate to continue increasing into the future, but I agree with the unlikable characters. They all seem scummy and that makes all the moral quandaries that were central to TOS and TNG really dumb.
HelloMcFly 3y ago
> I got banned from there because I didn't like Discovery. Was it for not liking Discovery, or being an a-hole about it? I didn't and don't like Discovery, I was pretty clear and precise in how I expressed that opinion. I saw many others shared it. I never got banned, and never stopped seeing people disparaging Discovery. Basically on Discovery, people seemed not treat the ship as a workplace, and there was no emergency too critical to not interrupt it with an extended and heartfelt, emotionally cathartic interaction. But the level of vitriol people would bring to their feelings about that show was often very off-putting and quite unfamiliar.
rcxdude 3y ago
Seems odd that you mention an 'unstable/untrustworthy crew' in the same breath as 'high concentration of LGBT people' as reasons you don't like it. I suspect that might be related to your ban, not the fact that you didn't like it in the first place.
- incomingpain 3y ago
  >Seems odd that you mention an 'unstable/untrustworthy crew' in the same breath as 'high concentration of LGBT people' as reasons you don't like it. I suspect that might be related to your ban, not the fact that you didn't like it in the first place. I also mentioned cadet and criminal, each of these attributes are separate entities. You are the one associating untrustworthy with LGBT. Which in fact isn't the case. I am referring to Voq / Ash Tyler who is untrustworthy because he's a klingon mole. I don't believe he is LGBT? OR Captain Lorca who was mirror universe and implicitly untrustworthy? Also not LGBT as far as I know. As a trans person, I don't believe I would ever associate unstable or untrustworthy and LGBT. But alas here I am being downvoted for this.
  - Izkata 3y ago
    I think they would have been less confused if you wrote it as "Tilly(?)" rather than without the parens, which makes it look like the end of a sentence and the following comma a typo. I'm guessing you were unsure of her name or the spelling of her name.
  - HelloMcFly 3y ago
    > You are the one associating untrustworthy with LGBT No, the original commenter made that association implicit by listing the proportional presence of LGBT as a detractor alongside criminals and untrustworthy crewmembers.
pndy 3y ago
While I was not banned, r/startrek felt for some time like its main purpose was to serve as marketing tool for Paramount and I wouldn't be surprised if mods got paid to keep some "standards" within the sub. The r/deepspacenine was more like a regular user-driven community.
- incomingpain 3y ago
  I was never a regular, but I would concur with you here. It's practically the only notable subreddit I ever got banned from and it's hardly a controversial opinion. I felt like I never actually broke any rules.

q1w2 3y ago

I'm with you. Discovery wasn't watchable.

remram 3y ago

It would make sense for the LGBT+ rate to continue increasing into the future, but I agree with the unlikable characters. They all seem scummy and that makes all the moral quandaries that were central to TOS and TNG really dumb.

HelloMcFly 3y ago

> I got banned from there because I didn't like Discovery. Was it for not liking Discovery, or being an a-hole about it? I didn't and don't like Discovery, I was pretty clear and precise in how I expressed that opinion. I saw many others shared it. I never got banned, and never stopped seeing people disparaging Discovery. Basically on Discovery, people seemed not treat the ship as a workplace, and there was no emergency too critical to not interrupt it with an extended and heartfelt, emotionally cathartic interaction. But the level of vitriol people would bring to their feelings about that show was often very off-putting and quite unfamiliar.

rcxdude 3y ago

Seems odd that you mention an 'unstable/untrustworthy crew' in the same breath as 'high concentration of LGBT people' as reasons you don't like it. I suspect that might be related to your ban, not the fact that you didn't like it in the first place.

incomingpain 3y ago
>Seems odd that you mention an 'unstable/untrustworthy crew' in the same breath as 'high concentration of LGBT people' as reasons you don't like it. I suspect that might be related to your ban, not the fact that you didn't like it in the first place. I also mentioned cadet and criminal, each of these attributes are separate entities. You are the one associating untrustworthy with LGBT. Which in fact isn't the case. I am referring to Voq / Ash Tyler who is untrustworthy because he's a klingon mole. I don't believe he is LGBT? OR Captain Lorca who was mirror universe and implicitly untrustworthy? Also not LGBT as far as I know. As a trans person, I don't believe I would ever associate unstable or untrustworthy and LGBT. But alas here I am being downvoted for this.
- Izkata 3y ago
  I think they would have been less confused if you wrote it as "Tilly(?)" rather than without the parens, which makes it look like the end of a sentence and the following comma a typo. I'm guessing you were unsure of her name or the spelling of her name.
- HelloMcFly 3y ago
  > You are the one associating untrustworthy with LGBT No, the original commenter made that association implicit by listing the proportional presence of LGBT as a detractor alongside criminals and untrustworthy crewmembers.

pndy 3y ago

While I was not banned, r/startrek felt for some time like its main purpose was to serve as marketing tool for Paramount and I wouldn't be surprised if mods got paid to keep some "standards" within the sub. The r/deepspacenine was more like a regular user-driven community.

incomingpain 3y ago
I was never a regular, but I would concur with you here. It's practically the only notable subreddit I ever got banned from and it's hardly a controversial opinion. I felt like I never actually broke any rules.