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And for those of us with no interest in following the mods, can /r/Startrek be opened again? If the old mods moved platforms, there’s no need to keep this priv

And for those of us with no interest in following the mods, can /r/Startrek be opened again? If the old mods moved platforms, there’s no need to keep this private.

0xDEF 3y ago
It was reddit's own mistake of allowing the same few hundred mods to moderate a significant percentage of the top 10,000 subreddits.
bognition 3y ago
Something that Reddit admins and users constantly miss is: "its the mods that make a subreddit amazing". People openly talk about this as the reason that HackerNews continues to be such a vibrant community. Replacing the mods will change the community, full stop. Could be for the better , could be for the worse.
- stcroixx 3y ago
  Some people feel that way. Me, I'm all for basic site-wide rules and automated moderation, as little as possible, and let me decide on the rest. Open it back up. There's no way it should just re-direct people to a competing site because that's what the old mods prefer.
  - malermeister 3y ago
    That community was run by the old mods. Without mods, no subreddit. You're welcome to start your own with your mod preferences, though.
    - stcroixx 3y ago
      That's just not true. If the old mods have left and set it to private before they did that, all that's needed is to simply make it public again. Admins can do that. No need at all to start a new one. They have no right to squat on this name to direct traffic to their new site indefinitely.
- BitwiseFool 3y ago
  >"Something that Reddit admins and users constantly miss is: "its the mods that make a subreddit amazing"." Conversely, the mods can also be mercurial and act like little tyrants over the subreddit. /r/StarTrek in particular is known for stifling criticism around 'new trek' and spinoff subreddits like /r/DaystromInstitute were created by people tired of the mods' actions. It also raises an interesting question as to why the mods have so much power in the first place and if any community recourse should exist when subscribers do not like the mods' actions. For one thing it does seem weird that the mods of r/StarTrek are allowed to unilaterally close the subreddit.
  - nerdix 3y ago
    I think there should be some sort of election for mods. Voted on by the community. Maybe have a minimum level of activity in a sub required to cast a vote. I also don't think mods should be able to turn /r subs private. The private subs should be on a different path like /p. If you turn a /r sub private then it converts to /p and the /r subname becomes available again. I suspect that some reform around private subs will be instituted in the near-ish future since it is the primary tool used by mods in the boycott.
BizarreByte 3y ago
Seriously though, it's absurd that such a small group of incredibly privileged users (mods) get to speak for the majority and make decisions for them. Reddit should be removing these mods, adding new ones, and reopening subs. Mods shouldn't get to hold entire communities hostage when they throw a tantrum. Anyone can moderate a subreddit, these mods aren't special and they're completely replaceable. They should be reminded of this.
- swexbe 3y ago
  I'm sure they will. Just waiting for the whole thing to die down a bit to get less of a reaction.
- yjftsjthsd-h 3y ago
  > Anyone can moderate a subreddit, these mods aren't special and they're completely replaceable You're volunteering?
- dzader 3y ago
  Go start your own subreddit then if anyone can do it! I'm sure you'll have tons of users and it will be super popular!
  - deleted 3y ago
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  - nerdix 3y ago
    Half the battle of a popular sub is getting a good name. A sub like /r/startrek is going to be popular by default. That's why people are squatting on subs like /r/ps8 right now even though a PlayStation 8 is probably 20 years away from being an actual product.
- tapoxi 3y ago
  Typically the users are voting in favor of this. Also mods aren't as replaceable as you think - who wants to work for Reddit for free while being treated as disposable?
joot82 3y ago
It might get reopened at some point, probably under some arbitrary rule that demotes the current mods and choses a new team, but reddit corporate itself won't moderate any subs too soon because that would expose them to a whole new set of regulations and liability. They are currently just providing the technical platform and not being responsible for content.
- nerdix 3y ago
  It won't be an arbitrary rule. It will because the mods are inactive which is a well established rule that existed before the current outrage. There are instances where reddit has given other users control of a sub because the mods were MIA. There is a whole subreddit where people request to be given mod rights for inactive subs - /r/redditrequest. This was happening well before the boycott.

And for those of us with no interest in following the mods, can /r/Startrek be opened again? If the old mods moved platforms, there’s no need to keep this private.

0xDEF 3y ago

It was reddit's own mistake of allowing the same few hundred mods to moderate a significant percentage of the top 10,000 subreddits.

bognition 3y ago

Something that Reddit admins and users constantly miss is: "its the mods that make a subreddit amazing". People openly talk about this as the reason that HackerNews continues to be such a vibrant community. Replacing the mods will change the community, full stop. Could be for the better , could be for the worse.

stcroixx 3y ago
Some people feel that way. Me, I'm all for basic site-wide rules and automated moderation, as little as possible, and let me decide on the rest. Open it back up. There's no way it should just re-direct people to a competing site because that's what the old mods prefer.
- malermeister 3y ago
  That community was run by the old mods. Without mods, no subreddit. You're welcome to start your own with your mod preferences, though.
  - stcroixx 3y ago
    That's just not true. If the old mods have left and set it to private before they did that, all that's needed is to simply make it public again. Admins can do that. No need at all to start a new one. They have no right to squat on this name to direct traffic to their new site indefinitely.
BitwiseFool 3y ago
>"Something that Reddit admins and users constantly miss is: "its the mods that make a subreddit amazing"." Conversely, the mods can also be mercurial and act like little tyrants over the subreddit. /r/StarTrek in particular is known for stifling criticism around 'new trek' and spinoff subreddits like /r/DaystromInstitute were created by people tired of the mods' actions. It also raises an interesting question as to why the mods have so much power in the first place and if any community recourse should exist when subscribers do not like the mods' actions. For one thing it does seem weird that the mods of r/StarTrek are allowed to unilaterally close the subreddit.
- nerdix 3y ago
  I think there should be some sort of election for mods. Voted on by the community. Maybe have a minimum level of activity in a sub required to cast a vote. I also don't think mods should be able to turn /r subs private. The private subs should be on a different path like /p. If you turn a /r sub private then it converts to /p and the /r subname becomes available again. I suspect that some reform around private subs will be instituted in the near-ish future since it is the primary tool used by mods in the boycott.

BizarreByte 3y ago

Seriously though, it's absurd that such a small group of incredibly privileged users (mods) get to speak for the majority and make decisions for them. Reddit should be removing these mods, adding new ones, and reopening subs. Mods shouldn't get to hold entire communities hostage when they throw a tantrum. Anyone can moderate a subreddit, these mods aren't special and they're completely replaceable. They should be reminded of this.

swexbe 3y ago
I'm sure they will. Just waiting for the whole thing to die down a bit to get less of a reaction.
yjftsjthsd-h 3y ago
> Anyone can moderate a subreddit, these mods aren't special and they're completely replaceable You're volunteering?
dzader 3y ago
Go start your own subreddit then if anyone can do it! I'm sure you'll have tons of users and it will be super popular!
- deleted 3y ago
  [deleted]
- nerdix 3y ago
  Half the battle of a popular sub is getting a good name. A sub like /r/startrek is going to be popular by default. That's why people are squatting on subs like /r/ps8 right now even though a PlayStation 8 is probably 20 years away from being an actual product.
tapoxi 3y ago
Typically the users are voting in favor of this. Also mods aren't as replaceable as you think - who wants to work for Reddit for free while being treated as disposable?

joot82 3y ago

It might get reopened at some point, probably under some arbitrary rule that demotes the current mods and choses a new team, but reddit corporate itself won't moderate any subs too soon because that would expose them to a whole new set of regulations and liability. They are currently just providing the technical platform and not being responsible for content.

nerdix 3y ago
It won't be an arbitrary rule. It will because the mods are inactive which is a well established rule that existed before the current outrage. There are instances where reddit has given other users control of a sub because the mods were MIA. There is a whole subreddit where people request to be given mod rights for inactive subs - /r/redditrequest. This was happening well before the boycott.