Don't mind the other commentor, spirited discussion is always welcome! I was thinking about this and even hacker news is a good example of how an html view can

Don't mind the other commentor, spirited discussion is always welcome! I was thinking about this and even hacker news is a good example of how an html view can differ from data model. Hacker news doesn't show you the vote count of every comment despite having that data available. They chose to not even render it into the template so no scraper will ever have access to that information.