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> My cars have had no trouble getting service at independent mechanics. Have you ever worked at an indy? We rely heavily on dealerships for anything from borro

> My cars have had no trouble getting service at independent mechanics. Have you ever worked at an indy? We rely heavily on dealerships for anything from borrowing specialty tooling, local parts departments, knowledge and advise etc. > The organization that sold you the car is responsible for the fixes, or refunding the vehicle if it can't be fixed. Totally. I think it's six of one half a dozen of the other. Car manufacturers generally coalesce around the efficiency of having new sales, parts departments, repair departments all in one building in many localities spread all over the place.

ceejayoz 3y ago
> We rely heavily on dealerships for anything from borrowing specialty tooling, local parts departments, knowledge and advise etc. What makes it impossible for the manufacturer to provide such things? If Ford chose to do away with dealerships, they couldn't provide regional parts and training facilities? (Hell, they'd probably already need to buy out a dealership or two for every major city or region already, anyways.)
- calvinmorrison 3y ago
  Yes and then they'll need a place to store new cars, on lots, and people, to facilitate the handover of keys and handle loans and so forth. back to square one
  - ceejayoz 3y ago
    That was always the case; Tesla has showroom and service facilities all over the place, and handles financing. That's the model the big traditional manufacturers want to move towards. It's not back to square one; it removes a middleman layer, one that most folks hate dealing with. You buy a car at a set price that's the same for everyone from a salaried employee, not from an intermediary who'll make up a price and pocket a commission off screwing you if you're not good at haggling.
emodendroket 3y ago
> I think it's six of one half a dozen of the other. Car manufacturers generally coalesce around the efficiency of having new sales, parts departments, repair departments all in one building in many localities spread all over the place. Why exactly must this be an independent business motivated to collect rents on top of what the manufacturer is already making? Hard to see how that could do anything but drive prices up to keep more fingers in the pie.

ceejayoz 3y ago

> We rely heavily on dealerships for anything from borrowing specialty tooling, local parts departments, knowledge and advise etc. What makes it impossible for the manufacturer to provide such things? If Ford chose to do away with dealerships, they couldn't provide regional parts and training facilities? (Hell, they'd probably already need to buy out a dealership or two for every major city or region already, anyways.)

calvinmorrison 3y ago
Yes and then they'll need a place to store new cars, on lots, and people, to facilitate the handover of keys and handle loans and so forth. back to square one
- ceejayoz 3y ago
  That was always the case; Tesla has showroom and service facilities all over the place, and handles financing. That's the model the big traditional manufacturers want to move towards. It's not back to square one; it removes a middleman layer, one that most folks hate dealing with. You buy a car at a set price that's the same for everyone from a salaried employee, not from an intermediary who'll make up a price and pocket a commission off screwing you if you're not good at haggling.

emodendroket 3y ago

> I think it's six of one half a dozen of the other. Car manufacturers generally coalesce around the efficiency of having new sales, parts departments, repair departments all in one building in many localities spread all over the place. Why exactly must this be an independent business motivated to collect rents on top of what the manufacturer is already making? Hard to see how that could do anything but drive prices up to keep more fingers in the pie.