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First reddit and now Stack Overflow? Rough couple of days for anyone googling things.
by saintradon 3y ago
First reddit and now Stack Overflow? Rough couple of days for anyone googling things.
- john-radio 3y agoI had a bash question for ChatGPT earlier and I opened with "Okay, it's just you and me now..."
- mberlove 3y agoI've been plugging search engine result links for reddit and stackoverflow into archive.org to "bypass" - works more or less.
- kurthr 3y agoFor the moment: https://blog.archive.org/2023/03/25/the-fight-continues/ https://blog.archive.org/2023/03/25/the-fight-continues/
- 8organicbits 3y agoOne unexpected benefit of LLM (to me) is that it memorized large parts of the internet, so it has some backup like properties. SO is down, but ChatGPT memorized it already.
- saintradon 3y agoYeah definitely. My default thought process was always, ok I'll just get a cached version, but now it's like - lemme see what GPT-4 thinks about this problem first.
- tehbeard 3y agoIt may have memorized it, but recollection with accuracy is not it's strong suit.
- twelve40 3y ago> SO is down, but ChatGPT memorized memorized SO, also known as "stole". when i (and everyone else) write for SO, i give them permission to use what i write, but never did I sign up for the GPT theft of that data.
- Wissenschafter 3y ago[dead]
- r2_pilot 3y agoYou gave them permission to use it, and they used it in such a way that GPT benefits from it as training data. I'm sorry you misplaced your trust in Stack Overflow for not protecting your public writings. Knowledge is awesome, though, in that it's like a candle and by lighting a new flame, your initial candle is not diminished in any way. It's not even your sole candle but merely one in a roaring bonfire.
- twelve40 3y ago> misplaced your trust in Stack Overflow that's a great way to put it, I'm very disappointed they aren't the ones to innovate in this new direction, even though people gave them all the power (and data) to do it. Which they chose to give away to "Open" AI aka Microsoft and now spend their time bickering over GPT detectors and writing nonsensical CEO "vision" posts. Basically, they really are now in a position to fizzle away at this rate, which is a shame, because I believe a community of acknowledged authors is a much more appealing way to advance knowledge than Microsoft anonymously milking the world for their sole profit and credit.
- 8note 3y agoYour content is licensed with https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0/ https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0/ when you submit it to SO to host and share. You agreed that gpt can use it, so long as it includes attribution, and specifies when it makes changes
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- phatfish 3y agoYes that is one of the cool side benefits i see too. It's like lossy compression for knowledge. Although, I mean that more in the sense we can have an entire (text) internet search engine on a phone, rather than it being a full backup.
- twelve40 3y agowhat? just click on "cached", SO doesn't just drop out of google
- bookofjoe 3y agoOne day ALL websites will go down worldwide and stay down. Could be today, could be 50 years in the future. Make sure you have a LOT of books you look forward to reading. "The Road" is not just a parable.
- bratbag 3y agoI think it's more likely they will go down because we have replaced them with something as far beyond websites, as websites are beyond books.
- janwillemb 3y agoBut books are not down. Why would websites go down?
- e-master 3y agoInterestingly, I’ve noticed a significant drop in stackoverflow results when I Google in the recent months. Can’t really attribute it to anything, but an honest word sometimes I don’t use SO for weeks.