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Tesla is exempt...
by twiddling 3y ago
Tesla is exempt...
- detourdog 3y agoIs this true or speculation? edit: It's true.
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- TOMDM 3y agoFrom the article. """ But as Florida Politics noted previously, lobbyists, including Taylor Biehl and Jeff Sharkey of Tallahassee-based Capitol Alliance Group, hammered out a deal adding language to the bill that should keep Tesla galleries open. The change confirms newer manufacturers like Tesla, Rivian and Lucid are authorized to hold a franchise dealer license for direct sales of EVs if they are not otherwise prohibited under federal law. That carve-out apparently does not extend to traditional manufacturers such as GM, Ford, Honda and Toyota, all of which now make battery-powered cars. """
- Gunnerhead 3y agoAdmittedly I haven’t looked into the bill, but I’m curious how it was written to carve them out without actually naming them.
- detourdog 3y agoBasically if there is an existing physical dealership one is excluded from seting up a virtual store.
- emodendroket 3y agoSeems like this would create a temptation to spin off another company that just does EVs.
- detourdog 3y agoThis really seems like late stage capitalism. The partnership between automakers and auto dealers has been celebrated over a 100 years. They are now employing politicians to legislate the business partnership over their shared interest.
- emodendroket 3y agoThey have been doing that for over a century. So, if so, the late stage of capitalism is dragging on a bit. I would challenge the notion that dealers have been “celebrated” by anyone but themselves.
- detourdog 3y agoI was trying to describe the celebration that went on between the auto makers and the dealers. I'm sure there were many get togethers at resorts all over the world for them to celebrate the relationship. They are now in the same relationship but are using politicians to maintain the status quo relationship. It definitely is not a healthy sign for the efficiencies of business in the USA.
- emodendroket 3y agoBut that’s not exactly right. Going back to the 1920s dealerships were reaching for the lever of legislative action to protect their position and they’ve done it over and over since.
- detourdog 3y agoOh, my mistake this is business as usual. All the their happy talk fooled me. Do you know a case name?
- emodendroket 3y agoThis article people have been passing around in the thread contains a bit of a history of the car dealership lobbying, which started during World War I when they feared being driven out of business by automakers converting entirely to war materiel production and cutting them out. https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2023/05/rich-republicans-party-car-dealers-2024-desantis.html https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2023/05/rich-republicans...
- judge2020 3y agoSo are other new automakers: > The change confirms newer manufacturers like Tesla, Rivian and Lucid are authorized to hold a franchise dealer license for direct sales of EVs if they are not otherwise prohibited under federal law. That carve-out apparently does not extend to traditional manufacturers such as GM, Ford, Honda and Toyota, all of which now make battery-powered cars. It's basically a protection racket for existing dealerships for traditional automakers, to ensure they don't get any bright ideas to avoid ~~middleman~~ dealership markups by directly selling the vehicles.
- 111111IIIIIII 3y agoIf I'm not mistaken, the Ford Lightning EV pickup truck has only been available through direct sales online ordering.
- judge2020 3y agoThat and the 2024 Mustang, but it's online reservation-based; the dealerships are still ultimately the ones buying the cars and reselling them to the end-user. I've heard stories of $20k or more markups even for reservation holders, since they know they'll be able to sell it if the original buyer walks away.
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- jaywalk 3y agoYou're mistaken. It still has to go through a dealership even though it's ordered online.
- cmgbhm 3y agohttps://www.kbb.com/car-news/ford-warns-dealers-buyers-to-avoid-f-150-lightning-markups/ https://www.kbb.com/car-news/ford-warns-dealers-buyers-to-av... Dealers are in the loop
- RC_ITR 3y agoWow a Florida law that has different enforcement for specific individual companies?
- generationP 3y agoI hope this helps strike down the law.