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Yes, I often find my self ignoring the advice of experts too. Natural things like homeopathy are clearly superior. This is such a trash take; and the shear num

Yes, I often find my self ignoring the advice of experts too. Natural things like homeopathy are clearly superior. This is such a trash take; and the shear number of people parroting it leads to a lot of needless suffering.

Georgelemental 3y ago
Homeopathy may be no more effective than a placebo - but placebos can work pretty well! In this day and age, when patients often aren't satisfied until the doctor gives them a prescription, a "worthless" placebo may be superior to unneeded antibiotics, or other drug with bad side effects.
readthenotes1 3y ago
He must have edited the post you're responding too. He no longer suggests homeopathy or ignoring reality.
mattejade 3y ago
Almost every expert recommends better diet, exercise and sleep, so I’m not sure why you’re viewing the “go natural” statement as a necessarily anti-expert one.
- wpm 3y ago
  For some people better diet, exercise, and sleep require taking drugs to make it more likely they can even do those things. It's a dumb take.
  - dvsfish 3y ago
    and those are the very exceptions the parent allows for.
- lynx23 3y ago
  Likely for the same reason why prescriptions are so popular. It is way easier to down a pill then to workout, changing your eating habits, or adjusting your lifestyle to allow for more sleep. Changing habits is hard, eating meds relatively easy... "So off we go, and man, if someone interferes with our narrative, we attack like the speedfreaks we have become..."
- TeMPOraL 3y ago
  It's "fuck off advice". They recommend it in full knowledge that almost nobody ever sticks to it, but it keeps the advice receiver busy and feeling responsible for their own problem. Lifestyle change is hard and impractical even for most neurotypical people. With untreated ADHD, it's almost impossible.
vorpalhex 3y ago
We have really high quality studies pointing out that things like fixing your sleep and going to the gym outperform other interventions in, key word here, healthy individuals. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30627769/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30627769/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4896469/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4896469/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/26271496/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/26271496/
aksss 3y ago
It’s a shit take for edge cases, but actually on point for the vast, vast majority of us. We have an awful and absurd habit of denying simple truths in homage to very exceptional cases. It’s a convenient reason for most to do less.
andrewl 3y ago
Exercising, eating right, and getting outside might or might not do for people what Ritalin does, but it’s not accurate to conflate Babelthuap’s prescription with homeopathy. It’s also not accurate to call homeopathy natural. I think it’s better classed as a folk belief not backed by science or any sort of evidence, like astrology.
- TeMPOraL 3y ago
  I call the "just eat healthy and exercise" tips as "fuck off advice". As in, something you'll say to a person with a problem, and then that person will go and try it, and struggle at it, and fail at it - but the process will take them half a year, during which you don't have to deal with their whining anymore, and they'll blame their own lack of discipline in the end.
steve1977 3y ago
Homeopathy is not any more or less natural than other pharmacy.

Georgelemental 3y ago

Homeopathy may be no more effective than a placebo - but placebos can work pretty well! In this day and age, when patients often aren't satisfied until the doctor gives them a prescription, a "worthless" placebo may be superior to unneeded antibiotics, or other drug with bad side effects.

readthenotes1 3y ago

He must have edited the post you're responding too. He no longer suggests homeopathy or ignoring reality.

mattejade 3y ago

Almost every expert recommends better diet, exercise and sleep, so I’m not sure why you’re viewing the “go natural” statement as a necessarily anti-expert one.

wpm 3y ago
For some people better diet, exercise, and sleep require taking drugs to make it more likely they can even do those things. It's a dumb take.
- dvsfish 3y ago
  and those are the very exceptions the parent allows for.
lynx23 3y ago
Likely for the same reason why prescriptions are so popular. It is way easier to down a pill then to workout, changing your eating habits, or adjusting your lifestyle to allow for more sleep. Changing habits is hard, eating meds relatively easy... "So off we go, and man, if someone interferes with our narrative, we attack like the speedfreaks we have become..."
TeMPOraL 3y ago
It's "fuck off advice". They recommend it in full knowledge that almost nobody ever sticks to it, but it keeps the advice receiver busy and feeling responsible for their own problem. Lifestyle change is hard and impractical even for most neurotypical people. With untreated ADHD, it's almost impossible.

vorpalhex 3y ago

We have really high quality studies pointing out that things like fixing your sleep and going to the gym outperform other interventions in, key word here, healthy individuals. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30627769/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30627769/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4896469/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4896469/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/26271496/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/26271496/

aksss 3y ago

It’s a shit take for edge cases, but actually on point for the vast, vast majority of us. We have an awful and absurd habit of denying simple truths in homage to very exceptional cases. It’s a convenient reason for most to do less.

andrewl 3y ago

Exercising, eating right, and getting outside might or might not do for people what Ritalin does, but it’s not accurate to conflate Babelthuap’s prescription with homeopathy. It’s also not accurate to call homeopathy natural. I think it’s better classed as a folk belief not backed by science or any sort of evidence, like astrology.

TeMPOraL 3y ago
I call the "just eat healthy and exercise" tips as "fuck off advice". As in, something you'll say to a person with a problem, and then that person will go and try it, and struggle at it, and fail at it - but the process will take them half a year, during which you don't have to deal with their whining anymore, and they'll blame their own lack of discipline in the end.

steve1977 3y ago

Homeopathy is not any more or less natural than other pharmacy.