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Gas stoves are furnishings that stick around for decades through owners that negatively affect the users, third parties, and the environment. If the claims are

Gas stoves are furnishings that stick around for decades through owners that negatively affect the users, third parties, and the environment. If the claims are true, it seems like gas stoves practice has negatively impacted the respiratory health of a substantial number of children who didn’t buy the stoves. If it was overwhelmingly adult purchasers and leaders being negatively affected, it would be one thing, but it seems like you would have significantly less paediatric asthma patients community wide if gas stoves were just banned or at least more stringently regulated.

lockhouse 3y ago
The problem is, there is very weak scientific evidence of these links and yet here we are swinging the legislative ban hammer already. There are very legitimate reasons to prefer gas stoves. They're not just in apartments because "LOL screw teh Poorz!!! Let them die of the ASTHMAS!!!" Gas heats up considerably faster, allows for more rapid cooking temperature changes, is considerably cheaper to operate in many localities, and is actually relatively clean burning compared to most fossil fuels. Go see what any world class chef outfits their kitchens with. It's almost always gas. There's an ulterior motive here. Why not just legislate that gas appliances be properly vented? Surely if gas stoves were as dangerous as they say the elites would not outfit their kitchens with them. None of this sudden war on gas appliances passes the smell test.
- bbatha 3y ago
  > Gas heats up considerably faster, allows for more rapid cooking temperature changes, is considerably cheaper to operate in many localities, and is actually relatively clean burning compared to most fossil fuels. Go see what any world class chef outfits their kitchens with. It's almost always gas. Resistive stoves are faster than gas though less responsive. Induction ranges beat the pants off both gas and resistive on basically all dimensions. The only thing induction can't do well is tasks that specifically involve an open flame ie charring pepper skins, the wok hei flavor, etc. Most of these can be reproduced by buying a $10 blow torch or using a propane grill instead.
  - Arn_Thor 3y ago
    I have seen little testing of this, but I think the specialized wok induction stoves (looks like a big bowl, into which you lower your wok) can easily produce heat comparable to all but the "jet-turbine" gas burners nobody in the West are allowed to use anyway. Example: https://www.webstaurantstore.com/images/products/extra_large/8353/901819.jpg https://www.webstaurantstore.com/images/products/extra_large... But that's not for your regular home kitchen
- Arn_Thor 3y ago
  Gas is relatively clean-burning, but in cooking the vast majority of the energy is released out into the air rather than going to heating the vessel. So I don't have figures on this, but I think even coal power from the grid sent through an induction cooktop would be much cleaner than blasting natural gas in your home kitchen. So if you add in the climate perspective, that's another reason to at least encourage a shift.

lockhouse 3y ago

The problem is, there is very weak scientific evidence of these links and yet here we are swinging the legislative ban hammer already. There are very legitimate reasons to prefer gas stoves. They're not just in apartments because "LOL screw teh Poorz!!! Let them die of the ASTHMAS!!!" Gas heats up considerably faster, allows for more rapid cooking temperature changes, is considerably cheaper to operate in many localities, and is actually relatively clean burning compared to most fossil fuels. Go see what any world class chef outfits their kitchens with. It's almost always gas. There's an ulterior motive here. Why not just legislate that gas appliances be properly vented? Surely if gas stoves were as dangerous as they say the elites would not outfit their kitchens with them. None of this sudden war on gas appliances passes the smell test.

bbatha 3y ago
> Gas heats up considerably faster, allows for more rapid cooking temperature changes, is considerably cheaper to operate in many localities, and is actually relatively clean burning compared to most fossil fuels. Go see what any world class chef outfits their kitchens with. It's almost always gas. Resistive stoves are faster than gas though less responsive. Induction ranges beat the pants off both gas and resistive on basically all dimensions. The only thing induction can't do well is tasks that specifically involve an open flame ie charring pepper skins, the wok hei flavor, etc. Most of these can be reproduced by buying a $10 blow torch or using a propane grill instead.
- Arn_Thor 3y ago
  I have seen little testing of this, but I think the specialized wok induction stoves (looks like a big bowl, into which you lower your wok) can easily produce heat comparable to all but the "jet-turbine" gas burners nobody in the West are allowed to use anyway. Example: https://www.webstaurantstore.com/images/products/extra_large/8353/901819.jpg https://www.webstaurantstore.com/images/products/extra_large... But that's not for your regular home kitchen
Arn_Thor 3y ago
Gas is relatively clean-burning, but in cooking the vast majority of the energy is released out into the air rather than going to heating the vessel. So I don't have figures on this, but I think even coal power from the grid sent through an induction cooktop would be much cleaner than blasting natural gas in your home kitchen. So if you add in the climate perspective, that's another reason to at least encourage a shift.