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Do you people always have to overhype this shit?

throwuwu 3y ago
What’s your problem? There’s nothing overhyped about that comment. People, including me, are building complex agents that can execute multi stage prompts and perform complex tasks. Comparing these first models to a basic unit of logic is more than fair given how much more capable they are. Do you just have an axe to grind?
- boringuser2 3y ago
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  - pyinstallwoes 3y ago
    How is it inappropriate? How is it not building?
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delhanty 3y ago
Do you have to be nasty? That's a person you're replying to with feelings, so why not default to being kind in comments as per HN guidelines? As it happens, swyx has built notable AI related things, for example smol-developer https://twitter.com/swyx/status/1657892220492738560 https://twitter.com/swyx/status/1657892220492738560 and it would be nice to be able to read his and other perspectives without having to read shallow, mean, dismissive replies such as yours.
- boringuser2 3y ago
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  - dang 3y ago
    Hey, I understand the frustration (both the frustration of endless links on an over-hyped topic, and the frustration of getting scolded by another user when expressing yourself) - but it really would be good if you'd post more in the intended spirit of this site (https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html). People sometimes misunderstand this, so I'd like to explain a bit. (It probably won't help, but it might, and I don't like flagging or banning accounts without trying to persuade people first if possible.) We don't ask people to be kind, post thoughtfully, not call names, not flame, etc., out of nannyism or some moral thing we're trying to impose. That wouldn't feel right and I wouldn't want to be under Mary Poppins's umbrella either. The reason is more like an engineering problem: we're trying to optimize for one specific thing (https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&sort=byDate&type=comment&query=curiosity%20optimiz%20by:dang https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&sor...) and we can't do that if people don't respect certain constraints. The constraints are to prevent the forum from burning itself to a crisp, which is where the arrow of internet entropy will take us if we don't expend energy to stave it off. It probably doesn't feel like you're doing anything particularly wrong, but there's a cognitive bias where everyone underestimates the damage they're causing (by say 10x) and overestimates the damage others are causing (by say 10x) and that compounds into a (by now 100x) bias where everyone feels like everyone else is the problem. We need a way out of that dynamic if we're to have any hope of keeping this place interesting. As you probably realize, HN is forever on the brink of caving into a pit. We need you to help nudge it back from that, not push it over. Of course you're free to say "what do I care if HN burns itself to a crisp, fuck you all" but I'd argue you shouldn't take that nihilistic position because it isn't in your own interests. HN may be annoying at times, but it's interesting enough for you to spend time here—otherwise you wouldn't be reading the site and posting to it. Why not contribute to making it more interesting rather than destroying it for yourself and everyone else? (I don't mean that you're intentionally destroying it—but the way you've been posting is unintentionally contributing to that outcome.) I'm sure you wouldn't drop lit matches in a dry forest, or dump motor oil in a mountain lake, trample flower gardens, or litter in a city park, for much the same reason. It's in your own interest to practice the same care for the commons here. Thanks for listening.

What’s your problem? There’s nothing overhyped about that comment. People, including me, are building complex agents that can execute multi stage prompts and perform complex tasks. Comparing these first models to a basic unit of logic is more than fair given how much more capable they are. Do you just have an axe to grind?

boringuser2 3y ago
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- pyinstallwoes 3y ago
  How is it inappropriate? How is it not building?
  - deleted 3y ago
    [deleted]

delhanty 3y ago

Do you have to be nasty? That's a person you're replying to with feelings, so why not default to being kind in comments as per HN guidelines? As it happens, swyx has built notable AI related things, for example smol-developer https://twitter.com/swyx/status/1657892220492738560 https://twitter.com/swyx/status/1657892220492738560 and it would be nice to be able to read his and other perspectives without having to read shallow, mean, dismissive replies such as yours.

boringuser2 3y ago
[flagged]
- dang 3y ago
  Hey, I understand the frustration (both the frustration of endless links on an over-hyped topic, and the frustration of getting scolded by another user when expressing yourself) - but it really would be good if you'd post more in the intended spirit of this site (https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html). People sometimes misunderstand this, so I'd like to explain a bit. (It probably won't help, but it might, and I don't like flagging or banning accounts without trying to persuade people first if possible.) We don't ask people to be kind, post thoughtfully, not call names, not flame, etc., out of nannyism or some moral thing we're trying to impose. That wouldn't feel right and I wouldn't want to be under Mary Poppins's umbrella either. The reason is more like an engineering problem: we're trying to optimize for one specific thing (https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&sort=byDate&type=comment&query=curiosity%20optimiz%20by:dang https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&sor...) and we can't do that if people don't respect certain constraints. The constraints are to prevent the forum from burning itself to a crisp, which is where the arrow of internet entropy will take us if we don't expend energy to stave it off. It probably doesn't feel like you're doing anything particularly wrong, but there's a cognitive bias where everyone underestimates the damage they're causing (by say 10x) and overestimates the damage others are causing (by say 10x) and that compounds into a (by now 100x) bias where everyone feels like everyone else is the problem. We need a way out of that dynamic if we're to have any hope of keeping this place interesting. As you probably realize, HN is forever on the brink of caving into a pit. We need you to help nudge it back from that, not push it over. Of course you're free to say "what do I care if HN burns itself to a crisp, fuck you all" but I'd argue you shouldn't take that nihilistic position because it isn't in your own interests. HN may be annoying at times, but it's interesting enough for you to spend time here—otherwise you wouldn't be reading the site and posting to it. Why not contribute to making it more interesting rather than destroying it for yourself and everyone else? (I don't mean that you're intentionally destroying it—but the way you've been posting is unintentionally contributing to that outcome.) I'm sure you wouldn't drop lit matches in a dry forest, or dump motor oil in a mountain lake, trample flower gardens, or litter in a city park, for much the same reason. It's in your own interest to practice the same care for the commons here. Thanks for listening.