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Yes, in fact the most successful social media companies do just that. Reddit doesn't seem to be aligning its interests with the interest of power users unlike o

Yes, in fact the most successful social media companies do just that. Reddit doesn't seem to be aligning its interests with the interest of power users unlike other social media companies. Reddit is really putting itself in a position of getting what it pays for, which it doesn't pay for moderators while at the same time is taking their tools away and also seems to be insulting them too. Treating major contributors as slaves hasn't exactly been shown to be the key to social media riches but the alternative has. Different solutions work for different companies, but one way or the other you have to align your interests with your users - especially power users - or else you'll just limp along, which this would seem especially true for social media companies.

Tao3300 3y ago
I suspect they see "you get the be the moderator in a community!" as a user feature, and not as an internal job. And people clearly want to do it, and care enough to do it for free. Up to a point, at least.
- midoridensha 3y ago
  If there's a bunch of openings for moderators as a result of this blackout, I'm thinking I might like to try it out, especially on a high-traffic sub if I can. Of course, as an unpaid volunteer with so much power, I'm not going to use it the way they want me to. Instead, I'll just randomly ban people I don't like, and then get them banned sitewide whenever they question my ban. (This seems to be normal behavior in many subs already...) Then I'll continue banning people, targeting the most productive users on that sub, until the sub is nothing more than a wasteland. This probably wouldn't be good for Reddit, but they'll be getting what they paid for.
rrrrrrrrrrrryan 3y ago
> it doesn't pay for moderators while at the same time is taking their tools away The mods mainly were protesting because they relied on these tools. Reddit responded by making exceptions for these tools, and threw in exceptions for accessibility-focused tools to boot. (Taking the "think of the blind and deaf people" argument off the table.) The only people that are still upset are the people who just want to continue to use ad-free readers, without paying money. Reddit is a digital drug dealer that just raised prices on its addicts. The power users you describe are the least likely to delete their accounts and leave. Their rage over something relatively trivial is just a testament to their addiction.
- yoasif_ 3y ago
  >The only people that are still upset are the people who just want to continue to use ad-free readers, without paying money. I am definitely in the minority, but I am upset that Reddit plans to monetize my writing by selling it to LLM companies (without an opt-out).
- callalex 3y ago
  They have given us no reason to believe that their half-assed, last second, poorly defined exceptions will be honored in any meaningful and reasonable way.

Tao3300 3y ago

I suspect they see "you get the be the moderator in a community!" as a user feature, and not as an internal job. And people clearly want to do it, and care enough to do it for free. Up to a point, at least.

midoridensha 3y ago
If there's a bunch of openings for moderators as a result of this blackout, I'm thinking I might like to try it out, especially on a high-traffic sub if I can. Of course, as an unpaid volunteer with so much power, I'm not going to use it the way they want me to. Instead, I'll just randomly ban people I don't like, and then get them banned sitewide whenever they question my ban. (This seems to be normal behavior in many subs already...) Then I'll continue banning people, targeting the most productive users on that sub, until the sub is nothing more than a wasteland. This probably wouldn't be good for Reddit, but they'll be getting what they paid for.

rrrrrrrrrrrryan 3y ago

> it doesn't pay for moderators while at the same time is taking their tools away The mods mainly were protesting because they relied on these tools. Reddit responded by making exceptions for these tools, and threw in exceptions for accessibility-focused tools to boot. (Taking the "think of the blind and deaf people" argument off the table.) The only people that are still upset are the people who just want to continue to use ad-free readers, without paying money. Reddit is a digital drug dealer that just raised prices on its addicts. The power users you describe are the least likely to delete their accounts and leave. Their rage over something relatively trivial is just a testament to their addiction.

yoasif_ 3y ago
>The only people that are still upset are the people who just want to continue to use ad-free readers, without paying money. I am definitely in the minority, but I am upset that Reddit plans to monetize my writing by selling it to LLM companies (without an opt-out).
callalex 3y ago
They have given us no reason to believe that their half-assed, last second, poorly defined exceptions will be honored in any meaningful and reasonable way.