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Because their child will survive a collision with an SUV? Quieter, sure.

barrkel 3y ago
Some roads aren't even open to non-locals on weekends (no through road for motorized traffic). Here in Switzerland, for example: https://lenews.ch/2018/05/24/swiss-mountain-passes-to-be-reserved-for-cyclists-this-summer/ https://lenews.ch/2018/05/24/swiss-mountain-passes-to-be-res...
OfSanguineFire 3y ago
A lot less SUVs in Central and Eastern Europe than in North America. But yes, some of the pressure on limiting truck traffic through rural areas on Sundays (or on some roads in general) came from a large amount of fatal collisions involving trucks passing through, whereas ordinary car drivers drive more cautiously through these villages.
- ApolloFortyNine 3y ago
  >A lot less SUVs in Central and Eastern Europe than in North America. Not really the point but thanks. Pretty sure a collision with any 2000lb metal shape isn't going to go well. >some of the pressure on limiting truck traffic through rural areas on Sundays (or on some roads in general) came from a large amount of fatal collisions involving trucks passing through, whereas ordinary car drivers drive more cautiously through these villages. If that was the point, then boy was that a terrible solution. Rather than fixing the root cause you have 'fixed' the problem 1/7 days of the week. The other 6/7 days of the week you have drivers coming through so bad at driving they banned driving one day out of the week.
  - OfSanguineFire 3y ago
    > Pretty sure a collision with any 2000lb metal shape isn't going to go well. In spite of that weight, lower speeds plus more awareness from the locals driving cars combine to mean lower risk of fatality. > Rather than fixing the root cause What is it to fix the “root cause” according to you? Sometimes the building of a new motorway to take trucks away from those roads, takes years. To build other roads in a village where children can play may not be feasible in the short-term due to surrounding agriculture or marshy ground. If, as you favour, trucks were allowed to run through every day in the meantime, there would be no day of the week children could play so safely outside.
    - Bluestrike2 3y ago
      I can't speak for the commenter you're replying to, but there is an alternative to just building more highways in the form of traffic calming measures. Small villages and towns really shouldn't have through-traffic moving through them at high speeds. Or even moderate speeds, if we're being realistic; pedestrians will usually survive the initial impact at 20mph or less, whereas at 36mph it's usually fatal.[0] Traffic calming sends a very clear, very obvious signal to drivers: slow the f*ck down, because you don't have a choice. It can include big tree branches hanging out over the road, narrower lanes, pinchpoints, speed humps and raised pedestrian crossings, and more.[1] Many of which are relatively low-cost to implement. Certainly, it's far cheaper than building a new highway. I doubt that those rules were implemented strictly because of pedestrian safety versus expectations of Sunday as a "rest day" versus latching onto it as a post hoc justification--or really just an extra perk--for the rule. And hey, if it does make Sunday a bit safer for kids to play, it's not like that's a bad thing. It's just that the next thought should be "well, how do we make the other six days safer as well?" 0. https://highways.dot.gov/safety/speed-management/traffic-calming-eprimer/module-2-traffic-calming-basics https://highways.dot.gov/safety/speed-management/traffic-cal... 1. https://globaldesigningcities.org/publication/global-street-design-guide/designing-streets-people/designing-for-motorists/traffic-calming-strategies/ https://globaldesigningcities.org/publication/global-street-...

Some roads aren't even open to non-locals on weekends (no through road for motorized traffic). Here in Switzerland, for example: https://lenews.ch/2018/05/24/swiss-mountain-passes-to-be-reserved-for-cyclists-this-summer/ https://lenews.ch/2018/05/24/swiss-mountain-passes-to-be-res...

OfSanguineFire 3y ago

A lot less SUVs in Central and Eastern Europe than in North America. But yes, some of the pressure on limiting truck traffic through rural areas on Sundays (or on some roads in general) came from a large amount of fatal collisions involving trucks passing through, whereas ordinary car drivers drive more cautiously through these villages.

ApolloFortyNine 3y ago
>A lot less SUVs in Central and Eastern Europe than in North America. Not really the point but thanks. Pretty sure a collision with any 2000lb metal shape isn't going to go well. >some of the pressure on limiting truck traffic through rural areas on Sundays (or on some roads in general) came from a large amount of fatal collisions involving trucks passing through, whereas ordinary car drivers drive more cautiously through these villages. If that was the point, then boy was that a terrible solution. Rather than fixing the root cause you have 'fixed' the problem 1/7 days of the week. The other 6/7 days of the week you have drivers coming through so bad at driving they banned driving one day out of the week.
- OfSanguineFire 3y ago
  > Pretty sure a collision with any 2000lb metal shape isn't going to go well. In spite of that weight, lower speeds plus more awareness from the locals driving cars combine to mean lower risk of fatality. > Rather than fixing the root cause What is it to fix the “root cause” according to you? Sometimes the building of a new motorway to take trucks away from those roads, takes years. To build other roads in a village where children can play may not be feasible in the short-term due to surrounding agriculture or marshy ground. If, as you favour, trucks were allowed to run through every day in the meantime, there would be no day of the week children could play so safely outside.
  - Bluestrike2 3y ago
    I can't speak for the commenter you're replying to, but there is an alternative to just building more highways in the form of traffic calming measures. Small villages and towns really shouldn't have through-traffic moving through them at high speeds. Or even moderate speeds, if we're being realistic; pedestrians will usually survive the initial impact at 20mph or less, whereas at 36mph it's usually fatal.[0] Traffic calming sends a very clear, very obvious signal to drivers: slow the f*ck down, because you don't have a choice. It can include big tree branches hanging out over the road, narrower lanes, pinchpoints, speed humps and raised pedestrian crossings, and more.[1] Many of which are relatively low-cost to implement. Certainly, it's far cheaper than building a new highway. I doubt that those rules were implemented strictly because of pedestrian safety versus expectations of Sunday as a "rest day" versus latching onto it as a post hoc justification--or really just an extra perk--for the rule. And hey, if it does make Sunday a bit safer for kids to play, it's not like that's a bad thing. It's just that the next thought should be "well, how do we make the other six days safer as well?" 0. https://highways.dot.gov/safety/speed-management/traffic-calming-eprimer/module-2-traffic-calming-basics https://highways.dot.gov/safety/speed-management/traffic-cal... 1. https://globaldesigningcities.org/publication/global-street-design-guide/designing-streets-people/designing-for-motorists/traffic-calming-strategies/ https://globaldesigningcities.org/publication/global-street-...