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This is very interesting when you consider the device timelines. Apple introduced their first external trackpad in 2010 and then introduced the hidden-by-defau

This is very interesting when you consider the device timelines. Apple introduced their first external trackpad in 2010 and then introduced the hidden-by-default scrollbar with Lion in 2011. Once trackpad gestures had become good enough, scrollbars became largely redundant, as they would be with touchscreen devices. At this point they're mostly a progress indicator. I think the Amiga bar is my favorite.

blahedo 3y ago
Even before trackpads were good enough, scroll wheels were a thing (and I still prefer them). Your dismissive "mostly a progress indicator" is burying the lede: yes, I've seen scrollbars as primarily progress indicators for more than a decade now, and I'm still irritated when they're not there! (They're also useful to quick-jump to a specific portion of a page or to scan very quickly without swiping a million times, but those aren't as important as their progress-indicator function most of the time.)