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> Why Politicians Are Trying To Take Your Children > California legislation would punish parents who don't affirm gender dysphoria wow yeah that's a take

rnk 3y ago
Also, how the media is really mean to RFK junior, the crazy RFK by the way. Supporting him puts you on the Bozo list.
- CrazyPyroLinux 3y ago
  What makes him crazy? Disagreeing with the New York Times or something?
  - rnk 3y ago
    It's because he makes constant clearly incorrect scientific claims, says conspiratorial things about vaccines that are obviously wrong. We haven't hidden the deaths of millions of people who got the COVID vaccine. We just haven't. And for all the billions of people who got the vaccine, I'm sure there were a handful of people that had serious reactions. But contrast that with the millions of people who literally died just in the US. He is trying to reverse that equation and claiming that it's all a big secret with no evidence, that's the problem with people like him.
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    - swores 3y ago
      And he's been doing it since before Covid, and still spouts the lies about links (which don't actually exist) between vaccinations and increased rates of diagnosed autism.
    - ajsnigrutin 3y ago
      Let's be fair... the vaccine conspiracies have a lot of backing by the gaslightng of our own government and media. I live in a small country of slovenia, we didn't approve any of the russian or chinese vaccines, so for normal people, there were four options - astrazeneca, J&J, moderna and pfeizer vaccines. All of them were marketed as safe, the marketing material from our government was that the 90-95% of the vaccinated won't get a symptomatic covid, and that everyone should get vaccinated "now", with any of the vaccines. Then a few people died nearby, and astrazeneca was temporarily removed from the list of options and wasn't recommended anymore. But the other three vaccines were safe and effective. Then a young girl died here from from a J&J vaccine (the popular choice, due to it being a single-shot one), and we stopped using that. Suddenly the "classic" vaccines were not ok anymore, and the "all four are safe and effective" became "you should get a mRNA vaccine". Then a bunch of young men ended up with heart issues after the moderna vaccine, and suddenly only pfizer is "safe and effective". Also the "95% chance you won't get symptomatic covid" became a slightly "lower chance of hospitalizaton or death". All of this of course came after the "masks are ineffective and you don't need them" that almost literally overnight (it was over a weekend) changed to "masks are mandatory in xyz places". I mean sure.... science, conspiracies... but if you want to fuel a conspiracy theory, the best way to do it is to say something, then change what you said, and ban people who continue saying what you said a few days earlier.
artificial 3y ago
AB957 is still being amended. Prior to amendment a parent not affirming gender identity would fall under child abuse. Here's the clause: (6)A parent’s affirmation of the child’s gender identity because it is in the best interest of the child to affirm their gender identity. https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billTextClient.xhtml?bill_id=202320240AB957 https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billTextClient.xhtm...
- ahahahahah 3y ago
  What an absolute lie. The subsection 6 that you quoted is under the section: 3011. (a) In making a determination of the best interests of the child in a proceeding described in Section 3021, the court shall, among any other factors it finds relevant and consistent with Section 3020, consider all of the following For example, another subsection is (3) The nature and amount of contact with both parents, except as provided in Section 3046 This has absolutely nothing to do with falling under child abuse.
- mock-possum 3y ago
  Good. Not supporting your queer kid is child abuse.
spacemadness 3y ago
This list of articles is right out of a conspiracy theorists fever dream. Great intellectual content here HN, thanks for sharing. Now go outside and take a walk before you go off the deep end.
- deleted 3y ago
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- ajsnigrutin 3y ago
  The whole "lab leak" thing was one of those conspiracies that got you censored on facebook, reddit and many other sites. Three years later, it's becoming a mainstream discussion and it became a realistic possibility.
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  - spacemadness 3y ago
    So this list is perfectly sane then I suppose, it’s as simple as that. I think the reason so many people like this stuff is they get to pretend they’re smarter than everyone and have the real information. You see, they did the research. They are big brained and everyone else is too stupid to understand. A convenient fit for a “smartest person in the room” fantasy. Authors like this provide fuel for that fantasy.
    - ajsnigrutin 3y ago
      So what? Anything bad happens, people have many theories that go against the official narrative, from quite possible, to absolute idiocracies, from "Epstein didn't hang himself" to flat-earthers, from usa involvement in iran coup to "bush did 9/11"... Somehow we have netflix documentaries about flat earthers (even if making fun about them), discovery channel has "documentaries" about ancient aliens, mermaids, ghosts, etc., but a "lab leak theory" has to be censored everywhere.

rnk 3y ago

Also, how the media is really mean to RFK junior, the crazy RFK by the way. Supporting him puts you on the Bozo list.

CrazyPyroLinux 3y ago
What makes him crazy? Disagreeing with the New York Times or something?
- rnk 3y ago
  It's because he makes constant clearly incorrect scientific claims, says conspiratorial things about vaccines that are obviously wrong. We haven't hidden the deaths of millions of people who got the COVID vaccine. We just haven't. And for all the billions of people who got the vaccine, I'm sure there were a handful of people that had serious reactions. But contrast that with the millions of people who literally died just in the US. He is trying to reverse that equation and claiming that it's all a big secret with no evidence, that's the problem with people like him.
  - deleted 3y ago
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  - swores 3y ago
    And he's been doing it since before Covid, and still spouts the lies about links (which don't actually exist) between vaccinations and increased rates of diagnosed autism.
  - ajsnigrutin 3y ago
    Let's be fair... the vaccine conspiracies have a lot of backing by the gaslightng of our own government and media. I live in a small country of slovenia, we didn't approve any of the russian or chinese vaccines, so for normal people, there were four options - astrazeneca, J&J, moderna and pfeizer vaccines. All of them were marketed as safe, the marketing material from our government was that the 90-95% of the vaccinated won't get a symptomatic covid, and that everyone should get vaccinated "now", with any of the vaccines. Then a few people died nearby, and astrazeneca was temporarily removed from the list of options and wasn't recommended anymore. But the other three vaccines were safe and effective. Then a young girl died here from from a J&J vaccine (the popular choice, due to it being a single-shot one), and we stopped using that. Suddenly the "classic" vaccines were not ok anymore, and the "all four are safe and effective" became "you should get a mRNA vaccine". Then a bunch of young men ended up with heart issues after the moderna vaccine, and suddenly only pfizer is "safe and effective". Also the "95% chance you won't get symptomatic covid" became a slightly "lower chance of hospitalizaton or death". All of this of course came after the "masks are ineffective and you don't need them" that almost literally overnight (it was over a weekend) changed to "masks are mandatory in xyz places". I mean sure.... science, conspiracies... but if you want to fuel a conspiracy theory, the best way to do it is to say something, then change what you said, and ban people who continue saying what you said a few days earlier.

artificial 3y ago

AB957 is still being amended. Prior to amendment a parent not affirming gender identity would fall under child abuse. Here's the clause: (6)A parent’s affirmation of the child’s gender identity because it is in the best interest of the child to affirm their gender identity. https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billTextClient.xhtml?bill_id=202320240AB957 https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billTextClient.xhtm...

ahahahahah 3y ago
What an absolute lie. The subsection 6 that you quoted is under the section: 3011. (a) In making a determination of the best interests of the child in a proceeding described in Section 3021, the court shall, among any other factors it finds relevant and consistent with Section 3020, consider all of the following For example, another subsection is (3) The nature and amount of contact with both parents, except as provided in Section 3046 This has absolutely nothing to do with falling under child abuse.
mock-possum 3y ago
Good. Not supporting your queer kid is child abuse.

spacemadness 3y ago

This list of articles is right out of a conspiracy theorists fever dream. Great intellectual content here HN, thanks for sharing. Now go outside and take a walk before you go off the deep end.

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ajsnigrutin 3y ago
The whole "lab leak" thing was one of those conspiracies that got you censored on facebook, reddit and many other sites. Three years later, it's becoming a mainstream discussion and it became a realistic possibility.
- deleted 3y ago
  [deleted]
- spacemadness 3y ago
  So this list is perfectly sane then I suppose, it’s as simple as that. I think the reason so many people like this stuff is they get to pretend they’re smarter than everyone and have the real information. You see, they did the research. They are big brained and everyone else is too stupid to understand. A convenient fit for a “smartest person in the room” fantasy. Authors like this provide fuel for that fantasy.
  - ajsnigrutin 3y ago
    So what? Anything bad happens, people have many theories that go against the official narrative, from quite possible, to absolute idiocracies, from "Epstein didn't hang himself" to flat-earthers, from usa involvement in iran coup to "bush did 9/11"... Somehow we have netflix documentaries about flat earthers (even if making fun about them), discovery channel has "documentaries" about ancient aliens, mermaids, ghosts, etc., but a "lab leak theory" has to be censored everywhere.