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Without putting blame anywhere and independently of who has the right of way, don't you just have your preservation instinct kicking in telling you that just gi

by shakow 3y ago

Without putting blame anywhere and independently of who has the right of way, don't you just have your preservation instinct kicking in telling you that just giving a bit of brakes is not a bad idea, and that the risk/gain ratio of losing 10 seconds of your day vs. getting killed is not worth it?

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robgibbons 3y ago
In motorcycle safety courses, you're taught to never assume that other drivers can see you, in fact you are encouraged to operate as if you're invisible, and ride accordingly. Growing up, I was told that it's better to be alive than to be "right" as it pertains to right-of-way. You can either insist on continuing because it's your right, or you can brake early assuming they're going to cut you off.
- shakow 3y ago
  Agreed. An even from a more trivial perspective, I overwhelmingly prefer to lose my right of way and 3' of my day rather than fork out thousands in body job on my car.
- faeyanpiraat 3y ago
  Unfortunately I saw a video of a similar accident where the motorcycle driver slid under the truck which turned across the road unexpectedly in a similar way, and one of the wheels went over the rider. He survived for a couple of minutes, during which his riding buddy held his hand, and talked to him until the end. Videos like this are quite disturbing but I would make watching some of them mandatory during the driving course. Some people just dont get they are literally driving lethal weapons.
lcnPylGDnU4H9OF 3y ago
> don't you just have your preservation instinct kicking in Admittedly, yes; often when I write “I might...” I’m imagining a perspective adjacent to my own. In theory, I’d take my foot off the gas, put it in a lower gear (“manual” automatic), and watch what the guy does (time pending). I doubt I would really not have enough time to stop given how much I pay attention when driving. Still, it takes two to tango, as it goes. The driver who died presumably could have and should have been paying more attention. They’d be alive today if they’d been paying enough attention to stop. And they’d be alive today if the truck driver had been more responsible. Keep in mind, the truck driver was hardly risking their own life; this was a lack of consideration for the safety of others.
8note 3y ago
Mine kicks in to say that those trucks shouldn't be on the road
leoedin 3y ago
I just don't think it's realistic to completely remove risk of other people's actions while driving down a high speed road. You can't slow down to a crawl every time a vehicle is at the side of the road, or turning across your lane from the other side. Yes, you can drive defensively - but at some point if you're driving at 60mph you have to have some level of trust that other people won't pull out suddenly.

by shakow 3y ago

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robgibbons 3y ago

In motorcycle safety courses, you're taught to never assume that other drivers can see you, in fact you are encouraged to operate as if you're invisible, and ride accordingly. Growing up, I was told that it's better to be alive than to be "right" as it pertains to right-of-way. You can either insist on continuing because it's your right, or you can brake early assuming they're going to cut you off.

shakow 3y ago
Agreed. An even from a more trivial perspective, I overwhelmingly prefer to lose my right of way and 3' of my day rather than fork out thousands in body job on my car.
faeyanpiraat 3y ago
Unfortunately I saw a video of a similar accident where the motorcycle driver slid under the truck which turned across the road unexpectedly in a similar way, and one of the wheels went over the rider. He survived for a couple of minutes, during which his riding buddy held his hand, and talked to him until the end. Videos like this are quite disturbing but I would make watching some of them mandatory during the driving course. Some people just dont get they are literally driving lethal weapons.

lcnPylGDnU4H9OF 3y ago

> don't you just have your preservation instinct kicking in Admittedly, yes; often when I write “I might...” I’m imagining a perspective adjacent to my own. In theory, I’d take my foot off the gas, put it in a lower gear (“manual” automatic), and watch what the guy does (time pending). I doubt I would really not have enough time to stop given how much I pay attention when driving. Still, it takes two to tango, as it goes. The driver who died presumably could have and should have been paying more attention. They’d be alive today if they’d been paying enough attention to stop. And they’d be alive today if the truck driver had been more responsible. Keep in mind, the truck driver was hardly risking their own life; this was a lack of consideration for the safety of others.

8note 3y ago

Mine kicks in to say that those trucks shouldn't be on the road

leoedin 3y ago

I just don't think it's realistic to completely remove risk of other people's actions while driving down a high speed road. You can't slow down to a crawl every time a vehicle is at the side of the road, or turning across your lane from the other side. Yes, you can drive defensively - but at some point if you're driving at 60mph you have to have some level of trust that other people won't pull out suddenly.