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I believe all of the new scans are available here: https://www.flickr.com/photos/projectapolloarchive/albums https://www.flickr.com/photos/projectapolloarchive/

I believe all of the new scans are available here: https://www.flickr.com/photos/projectapolloarchive/albums https://www.flickr.com/photos/projectapolloarchive/albums

porphyra 3y ago
And best of all, like other works of the US government, it's public domain!
- contrarian1234 3y ago
  Is it? It's definitely not made immediately clear on their website: https://www.apolloremastered.com/the-project https://www.apolloremastered.com/the-project Why are they on flickr and not NASA.gov as usual?
  - porphyra 3y ago
    Not sure, but I checked the licenses of a couple of photos on flickr and they were public domain.
  - gmiller123456 3y ago
    In the US, government organizations are not allowed to copyright their work. They can, however, obtain works that were copyrighted by someone else. But pretty much everything coming out of NASA is public domain, though they don't put a lot of effort into publicising that fact. https://www.copyrightlaws.com/copyright-laws-in-u-s-government-works/ https://www.copyrightlaws.com/copyright-laws-in-u-s-governme...
TylerE 3y ago
Those date from 2019, so clearly not. The quality of the few I sampled is also nothing special.
- akiselev 3y ago
  According to the author's bio [1], he was remastering photos of Neil Armstrong in 2019 for NASA for the 50th anniversary of Apollo 11 so clearly the timing lines up. Multiple sources on NASA and elsewhere point to that Flikr gallery. > The quality of the few I sampled is also nothing special. The ones in the TFA are remastered - color correct among other things. The ones in the Flikr are the unprocessed versions of Apollo Hasselblad photography scanned by NASA's Johnson Space Center. You can download the original 4000x4000+ resolution scans from Flikr. [1] https://www.apolloremastered.com/bio https://www.apolloremastered.com/bio
  - sponaugle 3y ago
    From that site: "The raw output from the digital scan of a 70mm Hasselblad frame, is a huge 1.3GB, 16-bit TIFF file. At approximately 11,000 pixels square, a single image would require a 12-foot x 12-foot computer monitor to display the whole image at standard resolution. " The Flikr images must be jpg conversions of the original TIFFs, certainly in an attempt to reduce file sizes. I'm not sure where the 11,000 comes from. The JPGs are 4400x4600. Perhaps the original TIFFs were 11,000x11,000 pix.
    - TylerE 3y ago
      11,000 pixels / 72DPI = 152 inches = 12' 6". Math checks out.
      - sponaugle 3y ago
        Yep! I wonder if it is possible to get the original TIFF files from NASA?
        netsharc 3y ago
        I've commented[1] above that the high-res scans were done by ASU, for example the cover of the book is this scan: http://tothemoon.ser.asu.edu/gallery/Apollo/9/Hasselblad%20500EL%2070%20mm#AS09-24-3665 http://tothemoon.ser.asu.edu/gallery/Apollo/9/Hasselblad%205... And on that page there's a download button for several version, with the raw image (the link has a .TIF extension) being 1.3 GB big... https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36333601 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36333601
netsharc 3y ago
These look like to be the non-enhanced scans. Compare https://www.flickr.com/photos/projectapolloarchive/21787864870/in/album-72157659522900305/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/projectapolloarchive/217878648... and https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/70f4b600092729ee3a719066227d72cf7716c0f4/0_0_2600_2600/master/2600.jpg?width=620&quality=85&dpr=1&s=none https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/70f4b600092729ee3a719066227d7... (from the article https://www.theguardian.com/science/2022/aug/26/apollo-space-moon-missions-photographs-remastered-neil-armstrong https://www.theguardian.com/science/2022/aug/26/apollo-space... )

I believe all of the new scans are available here: https://www.flickr.com/photos/projectapolloarchive/albums https://www.flickr.com/photos/projectapolloarchive/albums

porphyra 3y ago

And best of all, like other works of the US government, it's public domain!

contrarian1234 3y ago
Is it? It's definitely not made immediately clear on their website: https://www.apolloremastered.com/the-project https://www.apolloremastered.com/the-project Why are they on flickr and not NASA.gov as usual?
- porphyra 3y ago
  Not sure, but I checked the licenses of a couple of photos on flickr and they were public domain.
- gmiller123456 3y ago
  In the US, government organizations are not allowed to copyright their work. They can, however, obtain works that were copyrighted by someone else. But pretty much everything coming out of NASA is public domain, though they don't put a lot of effort into publicising that fact. https://www.copyrightlaws.com/copyright-laws-in-u-s-government-works/ https://www.copyrightlaws.com/copyright-laws-in-u-s-governme...

TylerE 3y ago

Those date from 2019, so clearly not. The quality of the few I sampled is also nothing special.

akiselev 3y ago
According to the author's bio [1], he was remastering photos of Neil Armstrong in 2019 for NASA for the 50th anniversary of Apollo 11 so clearly the timing lines up. Multiple sources on NASA and elsewhere point to that Flikr gallery. > The quality of the few I sampled is also nothing special. The ones in the TFA are remastered - color correct among other things. The ones in the Flikr are the unprocessed versions of Apollo Hasselblad photography scanned by NASA's Johnson Space Center. You can download the original 4000x4000+ resolution scans from Flikr. [1] https://www.apolloremastered.com/bio https://www.apolloremastered.com/bio
- sponaugle 3y ago
  From that site: "The raw output from the digital scan of a 70mm Hasselblad frame, is a huge 1.3GB, 16-bit TIFF file. At approximately 11,000 pixels square, a single image would require a 12-foot x 12-foot computer monitor to display the whole image at standard resolution. " The Flikr images must be jpg conversions of the original TIFFs, certainly in an attempt to reduce file sizes. I'm not sure where the 11,000 comes from. The JPGs are 4400x4600. Perhaps the original TIFFs were 11,000x11,000 pix.
  - TylerE 3y ago
    11,000 pixels / 72DPI = 152 inches = 12' 6". Math checks out.
    - sponaugle 3y ago
      Yep! I wonder if it is possible to get the original TIFF files from NASA?
      - netsharc 3y ago
        I've commented[1] above that the high-res scans were done by ASU, for example the cover of the book is this scan: http://tothemoon.ser.asu.edu/gallery/Apollo/9/Hasselblad%20500EL%2070%20mm#AS09-24-3665 http://tothemoon.ser.asu.edu/gallery/Apollo/9/Hasselblad%205... And on that page there's a download button for several version, with the raw image (the link has a .TIF extension) being 1.3 GB big... https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36333601 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36333601

netsharc 3y ago

These look like to be the non-enhanced scans. Compare https://www.flickr.com/photos/projectapolloarchive/21787864870/in/album-72157659522900305/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/projectapolloarchive/217878648... and https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/70f4b600092729ee3a719066227d72cf7716c0f4/0_0_2600_2600/master/2600.jpg?width=620&quality=85&dpr=1&s=none https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/70f4b600092729ee3a719066227d7... (from the article https://www.theguardian.com/science/2022/aug/26/apollo-space-moon-missions-photographs-remastered-neil-armstrong https://www.theguardian.com/science/2022/aug/26/apollo-space... )