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Apollo Remastered

88 points by bentaber 3y ago

jjcm 3y ago
Is there a link to the high res photos?
evolve2k 3y ago
Ha fully expected to read more about the reddit saga.
- nivekney 3y ago
  oh they are finally replacing the reddit backend with their own!? nope it's the moon.
  - joecot 3y ago
    I've been very much hoping that Apollo and the rest just pivot to being amazing Lemmy/kbin clients, with multiple instances pre-configured to use. That would be the biggest coup of all. Which is exactly what I thought had happened when I saw a title of "Apollo Remastered". 'Oh, you're going to price us all out? You don't care about third party client users? That's fine, I guess you won't care if hundreds of thousands of users suddenly have a client for a different site installed when they go to open reddit.'
    - joshstrange 3y ago
      A moon shot if you will… But yeah, I’d love for Apollo to do what some Twitter clients did switching to mastodon, it would make my transition off Reddit so much easier and nicer.
    - dramatic-cable 3y ago
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    - neardeaf 3y ago
      Same here, I clicked on the link so fast So far I really like lemmy/Kbin, but the content and mobile apps I sorely miss quality-wise.
      - evolve2k 3y ago
        A project 'tafkars' (The Api Formerly Known As..), pronounced 'tuff cars', has started that's designed to be a proxy for the reddit api that can be tied into lemmy etc. The idea being that all existing apps that rely on the reddit api can be redirected. They are looking for contributors, either folks who know Rust or otherwise just happy to do some legwork sniffing around the reddit api. https://github.com/derivator/tafkars/issues/1 https://github.com/derivator/tafkars/issues/1
akiselev 3y ago
I believe all of the new scans are available here: https://www.flickr.com/photos/projectapolloarchive/albums https://www.flickr.com/photos/projectapolloarchive/albums
- porphyra 3y ago
  And best of all, like other works of the US government, it's public domain!
  - contrarian1234 3y ago
    Is it? It's definitely not made immediately clear on their website: https://www.apolloremastered.com/the-project https://www.apolloremastered.com/the-project Why are they on flickr and not NASA.gov as usual?
    - porphyra 3y ago
      Not sure, but I checked the licenses of a couple of photos on flickr and they were public domain.
    - gmiller123456 3y ago
      In the US, government organizations are not allowed to copyright their work. They can, however, obtain works that were copyrighted by someone else. But pretty much everything coming out of NASA is public domain, though they don't put a lot of effort into publicising that fact. https://www.copyrightlaws.com/copyright-laws-in-u-s-government-works/ https://www.copyrightlaws.com/copyright-laws-in-u-s-governme...
- TylerE 3y ago
  Those date from 2019, so clearly not. The quality of the few I sampled is also nothing special.
  - akiselev 3y ago
    According to the author's bio [1], he was remastering photos of Neil Armstrong in 2019 for NASA for the 50th anniversary of Apollo 11 so clearly the timing lines up. Multiple sources on NASA and elsewhere point to that Flikr gallery. > The quality of the few I sampled is also nothing special. The ones in the TFA are remastered - color correct among other things. The ones in the Flikr are the unprocessed versions of Apollo Hasselblad photography scanned by NASA's Johnson Space Center. You can download the original 4000x4000+ resolution scans from Flikr. [1] https://www.apolloremastered.com/bio https://www.apolloremastered.com/bio
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contrarian1234 3y ago
Well it's a thinly veiled ad... and you can't really easily get digital copies - which somehow feels weird/wrong for space stuff. You typically can get that in full resolution directly from NASA. Is the web interface representative of the final quality? Just looking at an example: https://www.apolloremastered.com/shop/p/as15-82-11056-to-11057 https://www.apolloremastered.com/shop/p/as15-82-11056-to-110... Even mildly zoomed in the image looks quite crummy and blurry. Fine for a postcard, but not to hang on you wall It's also a bit weird that some dude manages to somehow get semi-exclusive access to photos made by the US gov't and can then charge hundreds of pounds for them
- _caw 3y ago
  That must be a web quality pic. The ones in his book are far higher quality. Too bad I can't nail the book to my wall..
  - aerio 3y ago
    Not with that attitude, you can't.
- arrrg 3y ago
  Ads are someone being paid to write/publish about something. Are you claiming that’s happening here? Also, I’m pretty sure a lot of the original photos are simply blurry (from motion) or slightly out of focus. Some of the other previews are much sharper. Check out the beard: https://www.apolloremastered.com/shop/p/as07-04-1596 https://www.apolloremastered.com/shop/p/as07-04-1596 Luckily photos don’t have to tack sharp to be great. In fact, many awesome photos (on or off planet) aren’t sharp at all. I don’t care at all about the obvious motion blur in this great photo, it even seems fitting: https://www.apolloremastered.com/shop/p/as11-36-5390 https://www.apolloremastered.com/shop/p/as11-36-5390 (Though I would agree, you picked one that would be greatly helped by being tack sharp and where it being out of focus detracts from it. I still think the composition is great and that’s probably why it made it in.)
- throw0101b 3y ago
  > Well it's a thinly veiled ad... Jason Kottke has been curating links on the inter-tubes for twenty-five years (1998). He simply links to stuff he thinks other will find cool: the fact that some of those items are purchasable does not mean the post is an ad. * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jason_Kottke https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jason_Kottke His posts on the Apollo program go back to 2005: * https://kottke.org/tag/Apollo/3 https://kottke.org/tag/Apollo/3 Here's another post on a book you can purchase by Edward Tufte: * https://kottke.org/01/09/edward-tufte-author-of-three https://kottke.org/01/09/edward-tufte-author-of-three * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Tufte https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Tufte Was that post an ad?
grout58 3y ago
That's not what I expected to see :)
_caw 3y ago
I highly recommend this book, which I received as a birthday present (hint, for your friends or loved ones who are into space stuff.) Every page is filled with these georgeous, highly detailed pictures, and a running commentary from the astronauts or author. You won't be disappointed.
hex4def6 3y ago
> Inspected, embossed and hand signed by the artist Wow, they got the Apollo 15 crew to sign these? Awesome! There are some technical / logistical issues with that, but I'm sure they managed to overcome them... Snark aside, I'm not really sure how running restoration on public domain photographs gives you authorship / copyright ownership over them.
WirelessGigabit 3y ago
> Inspected, embossed and hand signed by the artist What? Since when is a film developer an artist? If he would've taken the photos himself and then did the post-processing... fine. But not like this. I'm reading this page: https://www.apolloremastered.com/shop/p/s65-30427 https://www.apolloremastered.com/shop/p/s65-30427 and it doesn't even mention the original photographer.
- Arainach 3y ago
  A number of these shots are composites from multiple source images. Photo editing is an art and a technical skill all on its own. A print with a separate photographer and editor has two artists, not one.
- gmiller123456 3y ago
  >Since when is a film developer an artist? Developing and printing photographs absolutley is an art form. Many books on developing and printing are quick to point out that Ansel Adams was celebrated more for what he did in the dark room than for the subject matter or composition.
ConanRus 3y ago
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clnq 3y ago
What other historically or culturally significant coffee table books would you recommend?
KleinDisk 3y ago
Following the links throughout the thread, I've not seen a description of how the remastering process worked. >The scans of this original flight film have been digitally remastered in a lossless format and then converted to laser / LED light "Lossless encoding" is a red herring if you are looking for fidelity to ground truth, see: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22802909 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22802909 amongst others

Apollo Remastered

88 points by bentaber 3y ago

jjcm 3y ago

Is there a link to the high res photos?

evolve2k 3y ago

Ha fully expected to read more about the reddit saga.

nivekney 3y ago
oh they are finally replacing the reddit backend with their own!? nope it's the moon.
- joecot 3y ago
  I've been very much hoping that Apollo and the rest just pivot to being amazing Lemmy/kbin clients, with multiple instances pre-configured to use. That would be the biggest coup of all. Which is exactly what I thought had happened when I saw a title of "Apollo Remastered". 'Oh, you're going to price us all out? You don't care about third party client users? That's fine, I guess you won't care if hundreds of thousands of users suddenly have a client for a different site installed when they go to open reddit.'
  - joshstrange 3y ago
    A moon shot if you will… But yeah, I’d love for Apollo to do what some Twitter clients did switching to mastodon, it would make my transition off Reddit so much easier and nicer.
  - dramatic-cable 3y ago
    [flagged]
  - neardeaf 3y ago
    Same here, I clicked on the link so fast So far I really like lemmy/Kbin, but the content and mobile apps I sorely miss quality-wise.
    - evolve2k 3y ago
      A project 'tafkars' (The Api Formerly Known As..), pronounced 'tuff cars', has started that's designed to be a proxy for the reddit api that can be tied into lemmy etc. The idea being that all existing apps that rely on the reddit api can be redirected. They are looking for contributors, either folks who know Rust or otherwise just happy to do some legwork sniffing around the reddit api. https://github.com/derivator/tafkars/issues/1 https://github.com/derivator/tafkars/issues/1

akiselev 3y ago

I believe all of the new scans are available here: https://www.flickr.com/photos/projectapolloarchive/albums https://www.flickr.com/photos/projectapolloarchive/albums

porphyra 3y ago
And best of all, like other works of the US government, it's public domain!
- contrarian1234 3y ago
  Is it? It's definitely not made immediately clear on their website: https://www.apolloremastered.com/the-project https://www.apolloremastered.com/the-project Why are they on flickr and not NASA.gov as usual?
  - porphyra 3y ago
    Not sure, but I checked the licenses of a couple of photos on flickr and they were public domain.
  - gmiller123456 3y ago
    In the US, government organizations are not allowed to copyright their work. They can, however, obtain works that were copyrighted by someone else. But pretty much everything coming out of NASA is public domain, though they don't put a lot of effort into publicising that fact. https://www.copyrightlaws.com/copyright-laws-in-u-s-government-works/ https://www.copyrightlaws.com/copyright-laws-in-u-s-governme...
TylerE 3y ago
Those date from 2019, so clearly not. The quality of the few I sampled is also nothing special.
- akiselev 3y ago
  According to the author's bio [1], he was remastering photos of Neil Armstrong in 2019 for NASA for the 50th anniversary of Apollo 11 so clearly the timing lines up. Multiple sources on NASA and elsewhere point to that Flikr gallery. > The quality of the few I sampled is also nothing special. The ones in the TFA are remastered - color correct among other things. The ones in the Flikr are the unprocessed versions of Apollo Hasselblad photography scanned by NASA's Johnson Space Center. You can download the original 4000x4000+ resolution scans from Flikr. [1] https://www.apolloremastered.com/bio https://www.apolloremastered.com/bio

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contrarian1234 3y ago

Well it's a thinly veiled ad... and you can't really easily get digital copies - which somehow feels weird/wrong for space stuff. You typically can get that in full resolution directly from NASA. Is the web interface representative of the final quality? Just looking at an example: https://www.apolloremastered.com/shop/p/as15-82-11056-to-11057 https://www.apolloremastered.com/shop/p/as15-82-11056-to-110... Even mildly zoomed in the image looks quite crummy and blurry. Fine for a postcard, but not to hang on you wall It's also a bit weird that some dude manages to somehow get semi-exclusive access to photos made by the US gov't and can then charge hundreds of pounds for them

_caw 3y ago
That must be a web quality pic. The ones in his book are far higher quality. Too bad I can't nail the book to my wall..
- aerio 3y ago
  Not with that attitude, you can't.
arrrg 3y ago
Ads are someone being paid to write/publish about something. Are you claiming that’s happening here? Also, I’m pretty sure a lot of the original photos are simply blurry (from motion) or slightly out of focus. Some of the other previews are much sharper. Check out the beard: https://www.apolloremastered.com/shop/p/as07-04-1596 https://www.apolloremastered.com/shop/p/as07-04-1596 Luckily photos don’t have to tack sharp to be great. In fact, many awesome photos (on or off planet) aren’t sharp at all. I don’t care at all about the obvious motion blur in this great photo, it even seems fitting: https://www.apolloremastered.com/shop/p/as11-36-5390 https://www.apolloremastered.com/shop/p/as11-36-5390 (Though I would agree, you picked one that would be greatly helped by being tack sharp and where it being out of focus detracts from it. I still think the composition is great and that’s probably why it made it in.)
throw0101b 3y ago
> Well it's a thinly veiled ad... Jason Kottke has been curating links on the inter-tubes for twenty-five years (1998). He simply links to stuff he thinks other will find cool: the fact that some of those items are purchasable does not mean the post is an ad. * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jason_Kottke https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jason_Kottke His posts on the Apollo program go back to 2005: * https://kottke.org/tag/Apollo/3 https://kottke.org/tag/Apollo/3 Here's another post on a book you can purchase by Edward Tufte: * https://kottke.org/01/09/edward-tufte-author-of-three https://kottke.org/01/09/edward-tufte-author-of-three * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Tufte https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Tufte Was that post an ad?

grout58 3y ago

That's not what I expected to see :)

_caw 3y ago

I highly recommend this book, which I received as a birthday present (hint, for your friends or loved ones who are into space stuff.) Every page is filled with these georgeous, highly detailed pictures, and a running commentary from the astronauts or author. You won't be disappointed.

hex4def6 3y ago

> Inspected, embossed and hand signed by the artist Wow, they got the Apollo 15 crew to sign these? Awesome! There are some technical / logistical issues with that, but I'm sure they managed to overcome them... Snark aside, I'm not really sure how running restoration on public domain photographs gives you authorship / copyright ownership over them.

WirelessGigabit 3y ago

> Inspected, embossed and hand signed by the artist What? Since when is a film developer an artist? If he would've taken the photos himself and then did the post-processing... fine. But not like this. I'm reading this page: https://www.apolloremastered.com/shop/p/s65-30427 https://www.apolloremastered.com/shop/p/s65-30427 and it doesn't even mention the original photographer.

Arainach 3y ago
A number of these shots are composites from multiple source images. Photo editing is an art and a technical skill all on its own. A print with a separate photographer and editor has two artists, not one.
gmiller123456 3y ago
>Since when is a film developer an artist? Developing and printing photographs absolutley is an art form. Many books on developing and printing are quick to point out that Ansel Adams was celebrated more for what he did in the dark room than for the subject matter or composition.

ConanRus 3y ago

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clnq 3y ago

What other historically or culturally significant coffee table books would you recommend?

KleinDisk 3y ago

Following the links throughout the thread, I've not seen a description of how the remastering process worked. >The scans of this original flight film have been digitally remastered in a lossless format and then converted to laser / LED light "Lossless encoding" is a red herring if you are looking for fidelity to ground truth, see: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22802909 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22802909 amongst others