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There's a problem, covid was in Italy as early as September 2019. (see Dr John Campbell's video on this) Cases in November 2019 aren't early, it started probab

There's a problem, covid was in Italy as early as September 2019. (see Dr John Campbell's video on this) Cases in November 2019 aren't early, it started probably six months earlier.

andrewinardeer 3y ago
I was at Madrid airport in June 2019 and waiting in the long line for border control to leave there was a man who was displaying extreme flu-like symptoms. Coughing, sweating, pale as a ghost. Mind you, this is the height of summer. Even back then, prior to the pandemic, I actively avoided him because he looked really unwell. I know there is no way of knowing and at best it is a fanciful mental exercise, but I think to myself 'what if'?
dwater 3y ago
"John Lorimer Campbell is an English YouTuber and retired nurse educator known for his videos about the COVID-19 pandemic. Initially, the videos received praise, but they later veered into misinformation. He has been criticised for suggesting COVID-19 deaths have been over-counted, repeating false claims about the use of ivermectin as a COVID-19 treatment, and providing misleading commentary about the safety of COVID-19 vaccines. ... He holds a diploma in nursing from the University of London, a BSc in biology from the Open University, an MSc in health science from the University of Lancaster, and a Ph.D. in nursing from the University of Bolton. He received the Ph.D. for his work on developing methods of teaching via digital media such as online videos." - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Campbell_(YouTuber) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Campbell_(YouTuber) For anyone wondering who this is and if he is a reliable source.
- xdavidliu 3y ago
  agreed that that is absolutely not a legit source. I was curious so I googled, and found something more legit-sounding: https://www.reuters.com/article/health-coronavirus-italy-timing/researchers-find-coronavirus-was-circulating-in-italy-earlier-than-thought-idUSKBN27W1J2 https://www.reuters.com/article/health-coronavirus-italy-tim... > ROME (Reuters) - The new coronavirus was circulating in Italy in September 2019, a study by the National Cancer Institute (INT) of the Italian city of Milan shows, signaling that it might have spread beyond China earlier than thought.
- ifyoubuildit 3y ago
  Sounds like a guy with some pretty relevant credentials. Accusations of misinformation are a dime a dozen, and probably made oddly enough by people with fewer relevant credentials.
tap-snap-or-nap 3y ago
Tricks Dr John Campbell uses to spread DISINFORMATION on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqQC0tTECvQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqQC0tTECvQ

There's a problem, covid was in Italy as early as September 2019. (see Dr John Campbell's video on this) Cases in November 2019 aren't early, it started probably six months earlier.

andrewinardeer 3y ago

I was at Madrid airport in June 2019 and waiting in the long line for border control to leave there was a man who was displaying extreme flu-like symptoms. Coughing, sweating, pale as a ghost. Mind you, this is the height of summer. Even back then, prior to the pandemic, I actively avoided him because he looked really unwell. I know there is no way of knowing and at best it is a fanciful mental exercise, but I think to myself 'what if'?

dwater 3y ago

"John Lorimer Campbell is an English YouTuber and retired nurse educator known for his videos about the COVID-19 pandemic. Initially, the videos received praise, but they later veered into misinformation. He has been criticised for suggesting COVID-19 deaths have been over-counted, repeating false claims about the use of ivermectin as a COVID-19 treatment, and providing misleading commentary about the safety of COVID-19 vaccines. ... He holds a diploma in nursing from the University of London, a BSc in biology from the Open University, an MSc in health science from the University of Lancaster, and a Ph.D. in nursing from the University of Bolton. He received the Ph.D. for his work on developing methods of teaching via digital media such as online videos." - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Campbell_(YouTuber) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Campbell_(YouTuber) For anyone wondering who this is and if he is a reliable source.

xdavidliu 3y ago
agreed that that is absolutely not a legit source. I was curious so I googled, and found something more legit-sounding: https://www.reuters.com/article/health-coronavirus-italy-timing/researchers-find-coronavirus-was-circulating-in-italy-earlier-than-thought-idUSKBN27W1J2 https://www.reuters.com/article/health-coronavirus-italy-tim... > ROME (Reuters) - The new coronavirus was circulating in Italy in September 2019, a study by the National Cancer Institute (INT) of the Italian city of Milan shows, signaling that it might have spread beyond China earlier than thought.
ifyoubuildit 3y ago
Sounds like a guy with some pretty relevant credentials. Accusations of misinformation are a dime a dozen, and probably made oddly enough by people with fewer relevant credentials.

tap-snap-or-nap 3y ago

Tricks Dr John Campbell uses to spread DISINFORMATION on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqQC0tTECvQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqQC0tTECvQ