I think I spent too much time configuring Webpack in previous lives that I got all of that out of Webpack at some point or another (and Webpack always had plent

I think I spent too much time configuring Webpack in previous lives that I got all of that out of Webpack at some point or another (and Webpack always had plenty of plugins, too). I'm glad you feel productive in Vite, I'm not arguing to take Vite away from anyone. I just already have Webpack configurations doing everything Vite does that I don't have reason to touch and I prefer to do things in a lighter-weight way going forward (including "no bundling" as much as possible). > That's kind of my point, esbuild doesn't do anything really new. It just does what it does extremely well, same as Vite. Ah, yeah, if you want to argue that there is no "new generation" at all yet in frontend tooling, then I can agree with that. To some extent with ESM Everywhere and trusting things like HTTP/2+ the nice thing is we're very close to a revenge of "no tools" is the "new generation of tools", which I think is great.