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>Apps will not have direct access to the cameras A restriction for which I am thankful. >Vision Pro is destined to keep being a toy fully steered by Apple. I

by krger 3y ago

>Apps will not have direct access to the cameras A restriction for which I am thankful. >Vision Pro is destined to keep being a toy fully steered by Apple. I trust Apple a lot more than I trust the "let's figure out how to fingerprint users based on how they scroll and other metrics and use it to sell ads" crowd. >You can't access eye tracking, A restriction for which I am thankful. >so say good bye to foveated rendering. Vision Pro does foveated rendering.

ohgodplsno 3y ago
Yes, yes, we know some Apple users are unable to see past the "you can't be trusted" that Apple keeps violently stabbing in your brain, you'll live in a company town with company stores and company credits and you'll be happy about it. Now can the adults use their devices? The Vision Pro does not provide foveated rendering if you do not go through the Apple renderer. There's some extremely vague wording regarding Metal supporting it, without any API documentation out.
- krger 3y ago
  >Yes, yes, we know some Apple users are unable to see past the "you can't be trusted" that Apple keeps violently stabbing in your brain, you'll live in a company town with company stores and company credits and you'll be happy about it. Apple isn't telling me that I can't be trusted. Apple is telling me that it's a stupid idea to trust third-party developers with unfettered access to my data, and they're not even a little bit wrong. This has been happening at least since the "Foursquare is uploading and storing every user's contacts" fiasco well over a decade ago. > Now can the adults use their devices? Of course. Feel free to bring to market your wonderful headset that allows VC-funded startups to create a never-ending torrent of privacy hellscape diarrhea apps you can enjoy until they implode. >The Vision Pro does not provide foveated rendering if you do not go through the Apple renderer. There's some extremely vague wording regarding Metal supporting it, without any API documentation out. That's because the API has yet to be released to developers. Perhaps you can wait until it is to get your mouth all frothy, sunshine.
  - wkat4242 3y ago
    > Of course. Feel free to bring to market your wonderful headset that allows VC-funded startups to create a never-ending torrent of privacy hellscape diarrhea apps you can enjoy until they implode. You do realise you're describing 99% of the iOS app store here right? In fact, while the Android app store is curated in an even worse manner, I find that Android does offer a lot more high-quality ad-free open source software on platforms like F-Droid. Because the iOS developer subscription makes it hard for FOSS developers to do their work for free so things become more monetised.
    - krger 3y ago
      >You do realise you're describing 99% of the iOS app store here right? I do. And I also realize how much worse it'd be if Apple didn't gate user data behind OS-level user consent dialogs.
- kitsunesoba 3y ago
  > we know some Apple users are unable to see past the "you can't be trusted" that Apple keeps violently stabbing in your brain It's third party devs doing that, not Apple. They've proven themselves unworthy of trust more times than can be counted. Where there is room for abuse, abuse will happen. We might be numb to it, but it happens all the time on desktop operating systems. Examples include Adobe putting files in corners of the system it has no business touching, practically every modern AAA game installing rootkits and scanning our filesystems, and until just a few years ago Dropbox installing a kernel extension on macOS. The only devs that deserve any trust are FOSS devs but there isn't good FOSS software for every use case.
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by krger 3y ago

ohgodplsno 3y ago

Yes, yes, we know some Apple users are unable to see past the "you can't be trusted" that Apple keeps violently stabbing in your brain, you'll live in a company town with company stores and company credits and you'll be happy about it. Now can the adults use their devices? The Vision Pro does not provide foveated rendering if you do not go through the Apple renderer. There's some extremely vague wording regarding Metal supporting it, without any API documentation out.

krger 3y ago
>Yes, yes, we know some Apple users are unable to see past the "you can't be trusted" that Apple keeps violently stabbing in your brain, you'll live in a company town with company stores and company credits and you'll be happy about it. Apple isn't telling me that I can't be trusted. Apple is telling me that it's a stupid idea to trust third-party developers with unfettered access to my data, and they're not even a little bit wrong. This has been happening at least since the "Foursquare is uploading and storing every user's contacts" fiasco well over a decade ago. > Now can the adults use their devices? Of course. Feel free to bring to market your wonderful headset that allows VC-funded startups to create a never-ending torrent of privacy hellscape diarrhea apps you can enjoy until they implode. >The Vision Pro does not provide foveated rendering if you do not go through the Apple renderer. There's some extremely vague wording regarding Metal supporting it, without any API documentation out. That's because the API has yet to be released to developers. Perhaps you can wait until it is to get your mouth all frothy, sunshine.
- wkat4242 3y ago
  > Of course. Feel free to bring to market your wonderful headset that allows VC-funded startups to create a never-ending torrent of privacy hellscape diarrhea apps you can enjoy until they implode. You do realise you're describing 99% of the iOS app store here right? In fact, while the Android app store is curated in an even worse manner, I find that Android does offer a lot more high-quality ad-free open source software on platforms like F-Droid. Because the iOS developer subscription makes it hard for FOSS developers to do their work for free so things become more monetised.
  - krger 3y ago
    >You do realise you're describing 99% of the iOS app store here right? I do. And I also realize how much worse it'd be if Apple didn't gate user data behind OS-level user consent dialogs.
kitsunesoba 3y ago
> we know some Apple users are unable to see past the "you can't be trusted" that Apple keeps violently stabbing in your brain It's third party devs doing that, not Apple. They've proven themselves unworthy of trust more times than can be counted. Where there is room for abuse, abuse will happen. We might be numb to it, but it happens all the time on desktop operating systems. Examples include Adobe putting files in corners of the system it has no business touching, practically every modern AAA game installing rootkits and scanning our filesystems, and until just a few years ago Dropbox installing a kernel extension on macOS. The only devs that deserve any trust are FOSS devs but there isn't good FOSS software for every use case.
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