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Seems very conspiracy I don't think that in 2015 MS had known the AI explosion of the last months, at such degree to base a whole product strategy

varunkmohan 3y ago
They did not, Microsoft made the bet that there would be some application in the future that would require distribution to all developers. Turns out that application was Github Copilot.
- beezlewax 3y ago
  I mean they already have published many plugins linked to azure and other services they offer it's not about copilot but they did strike gold with copilot.
- anaganisk 3y ago
  Some application in the future, that turns out to be AI? That is some level of hammering a square into a circle as I see it (confirmation bias?). This quickly falls apart, since GitHub Copilot is also available as an extension on intelliJ, and is not exclusive to VsCode. Vscode shines with or without GitHub Copilot, because it also has some other exclusive extension ecosystem that are not opensource but very much a bait to pull Linux devs into windows, their bet on WSL, and exclusive extensions like WSL integration and remote containers extension, literally shows how much they want developers to be in their ecosystem. Vscode is their, bet itself to keep developers wrapped in their tentacles, OTOH Copilot is barely a feature, that allows them to charge subscribers, on multiple IDEs. Copilot is not an exclusive feature that brings devs into their ecosystem, it's just an addition.
- Eldt 3y ago
  You don't think the popularity of atom vs visual studio wasn't the main factor?
  - jay_kyburz 3y ago
    Yeah, It's pretty clear to me MS sees the web as the future and they had the big heavy (expensive) Visual Studio and Notepad and nothing in between.
- CBarkleyU 3y ago
  "Why did Microsoft strive for [market penetration] turns out: They want to [utilize market penetration]" What a novel idea.
fswd 3y ago
I remember in 2014 they did a Linux developer survey, and I was a part of it. In it, I suggested porting over Visual Studio to Linux. Apparently the right person read this and so then we had a follow-up meeting with three other developers, and we spoke more about the idea. I think they sent me a $25 starbucks gift card.
coldacid 3y ago
The article even says that they stumbled into this more or less accidentally, but I guess the author didn't want to give up such a great clickbaity title.

varunkmohan 3y ago

They did not, Microsoft made the bet that there would be some application in the future that would require distribution to all developers. Turns out that application was Github Copilot.

beezlewax 3y ago
I mean they already have published many plugins linked to azure and other services they offer it's not about copilot but they did strike gold with copilot.
anaganisk 3y ago
Some application in the future, that turns out to be AI? That is some level of hammering a square into a circle as I see it (confirmation bias?). This quickly falls apart, since GitHub Copilot is also available as an extension on intelliJ, and is not exclusive to VsCode. Vscode shines with or without GitHub Copilot, because it also has some other exclusive extension ecosystem that are not opensource but very much a bait to pull Linux devs into windows, their bet on WSL, and exclusive extensions like WSL integration and remote containers extension, literally shows how much they want developers to be in their ecosystem. Vscode is their, bet itself to keep developers wrapped in their tentacles, OTOH Copilot is barely a feature, that allows them to charge subscribers, on multiple IDEs. Copilot is not an exclusive feature that brings devs into their ecosystem, it's just an addition.
Eldt 3y ago
You don't think the popularity of atom vs visual studio wasn't the main factor?
- jay_kyburz 3y ago
  Yeah, It's pretty clear to me MS sees the web as the future and they had the big heavy (expensive) Visual Studio and Notepad and nothing in between.
CBarkleyU 3y ago
"Why did Microsoft strive for [market penetration] turns out: They want to [utilize market penetration]" What a novel idea.

fswd 3y ago

I remember in 2014 they did a Linux developer survey, and I was a part of it. In it, I suggested porting over Visual Studio to Linux. Apparently the right person read this and so then we had a follow-up meeting with three other developers, and we spoke more about the idea. I think they sent me a $25 starbucks gift card.

coldacid 3y ago

The article even says that they stumbled into this more or less accidentally, but I guess the author didn't want to give up such a great clickbaity title.