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So mechanical turk, which was a robot that actually contained a human, is actually a robot that contains a human that contains a robot. We have achieved comple
by bravura 3y ago
So mechanical turk, which was a robot that actually contained a human, is actually a robot that contains a human that contains a robot.
We have achieved complete ouroboros.
- bhuga 3y agoOr perhaps "ourorobos" :)
- cscurmudgeon 3y agoAnd the final robot has millions-billions of humans fused using linear algebra.
- Terr_ 3y agoAnd the humans are trillions of tiny nanobots (after a there was a "Grey Goo" event billions of years ago) that formed a hivemind that isn't even aware of all its own parts. :P
- cscurmudgeon 3y agohttps://users.ece.cmu.edu/~gamvrosi/thelastq.html https://users.ece.cmu.edu/~gamvrosi/thelastq.html
- treprinum 3y agoIt's robots all the way down!
- nashashmi 3y agoWe call that reinforcement. It’s like actors in movies copy real world people who copy actors in movies.
- jeron 3y agoRLHBARF - Reinforcement Learning from Human But Actually Robot Feedback
- tsunamifury 3y agoUh, I think this should be a thing considering we have LLMs training other LLMs. so we end up with this BARF loop. There is an actual interesting question here if BARF loops can create new synthetic knowledge, or if humans need to be the 'spark of novelty' in that loop to drive it to new knowledge.
- yetanotherloser 3y agoI love your acronym formation there. There's another thread running at the moment about BARF degrading the machine's performance. I don't have enough information to be confident, but it sounded plausible and likely.
- jeron 3y agoif BARF becomes a thing I really hope I'll be credited for it haha
- ry4nolson 3y agoQ: Does art imitate life or does life imitate art? A: Yes
- awinter-py 3y agono it is only an ouroboros if biting its own tail -- this is more of a cyborg centipede situation
- 0x000xca0xfe 3y agoJust wait until the LLM extensions are better. The future looks like this: 1. You use MTurk to brainstorm new product ideas 2. The human figures out your company and tasks the LLM with the brainstorming 3. The LLM hits you up for a chat about your company's future :)))
- dv_dt 3y agoWatch some videos of various factory production lines, or ag planting for example. Machines that feed stuff to humans that may feed more machines.
- yetanotherloser 3y agoThere's a great, if rather old, word for these machines: "tools".
- sangnoir 3y ago> We have achieved complete ouroboros. That's a generous / romantic take. For me, the Human Centipede of online text generation is now a complete circle
- neilv 3y agoAwful, but strangely appropriate. Considering all the "I don't care about quality; just dump a pile of text" uses we're seeing.
- cyanydeez 3y agotrue orourboros comes when it's undetectable which level of the turtle you're on.