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If they start with iOS, there is no way they redo it with macOS in the next version. Also the UI is completely different and the input system is different. I am

by o1y32 3y ago

If they start with iOS, there is no way they redo it with macOS in the next version. Also the UI is completely different and the input system is different. I am definitely not going to spend $3.5k and still buy a $1k MacBook to do my work.

culturestate 3y ago
> I am definitely not going to spend $3.5k and still buy a $1k MacBook to do my work. I would happily spend $3.5k on an insanely portable, wraparound, multi-monitor setup for my $1k MacBook. If this thing works anywhere close to as well as they say it does for that use case, I won’t be able to get my credit card out fast enough. The fact that it could be used independently is just a cherry on top.
- npace12 3y ago
  you can only get 1 screen streamed from the mac at 4k they said
  - rbreaves 3y ago
    Pretty sure with RDP type apps and lower res you can easily push 2 or 4 screens... but yea probably not at 4k. Sheesh that isn't even necessary for people doing productive work. Except for maybe video editors.
    - taskforcegemini 3y ago
      resolutiin requirements change dramatically when vr is involved. you don't want to be reading blurry text and pixels don't map 1:1 when "projected" in vr
  - jonhohle 3y ago
    Window layers are already separate and independently renderable. It would be great to get just all windows as opposed to a Mac desktop panel where windows are stuck inside. (Kind of how Classic apps could run within the OS X window space.) Stage Manager may have laid the groundwork for window groups operating outside the typical desktop or even virtual screen idiom.
  - jedberg 3y ago
    Ok, but that's version one. Also, not sure I need more than that. Looking at what I have open on my Mac right now, all but two (the IDE and shell) have equivalent iOS apps. So in theory I could run all of those on the Vision Pro in other windows. Pretty sure one 4k window is more than enough to handle the things I can't do on the Vision natively.
karkisuni 3y ago
The APIs are mostly cross-platform now, and the SoCs are the same, so the main reason you wouldn't want to just copy a Mac app to the iPad is the touch input. If eye tracking is as good as they say, that's a lot closer to a mouse than touch controls.
jayd16 3y ago
Kernel flavor doesn't matter. The real question is if you can install any app or is everything through a locked down app store. Even if it's MacOS, what do you think the answer to that question will be?

by o1y32 3y ago

culturestate 3y ago

> I am definitely not going to spend $3.5k and still buy a $1k MacBook to do my work. I would happily spend $3.5k on an insanely portable, wraparound, multi-monitor setup for my $1k MacBook. If this thing works anywhere close to as well as they say it does for that use case, I won’t be able to get my credit card out fast enough. The fact that it could be used independently is just a cherry on top.

npace12 3y ago
you can only get 1 screen streamed from the mac at 4k they said
- rbreaves 3y ago
  Pretty sure with RDP type apps and lower res you can easily push 2 or 4 screens... but yea probably not at 4k. Sheesh that isn't even necessary for people doing productive work. Except for maybe video editors.
  - taskforcegemini 3y ago
    resolutiin requirements change dramatically when vr is involved. you don't want to be reading blurry text and pixels don't map 1:1 when "projected" in vr
- jonhohle 3y ago
  Window layers are already separate and independently renderable. It would be great to get just all windows as opposed to a Mac desktop panel where windows are stuck inside. (Kind of how Classic apps could run within the OS X window space.) Stage Manager may have laid the groundwork for window groups operating outside the typical desktop or even virtual screen idiom.
- jedberg 3y ago
  Ok, but that's version one. Also, not sure I need more than that. Looking at what I have open on my Mac right now, all but two (the IDE and shell) have equivalent iOS apps. So in theory I could run all of those on the Vision Pro in other windows. Pretty sure one 4k window is more than enough to handle the things I can't do on the Vision natively.

karkisuni 3y ago

The APIs are mostly cross-platform now, and the SoCs are the same, so the main reason you wouldn't want to just copy a Mac app to the iPad is the touch input. If eye tracking is as good as they say, that's a lot closer to a mouse than touch controls.

jayd16 3y ago

Kernel flavor doesn't matter. The real question is if you can install any app or is everything through a locked down app store. Even if it's MacOS, what do you think the answer to that question will be?