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This is great. It is the right way forward. Trying to smush Rust into old operating systems is in my opinion (and I might be the only one with the opinion) not

This is great. It is the right way forward. Trying to smush Rust into old operating systems is in my opinion (and I might be the only one with the opinion) not an optimal use of resources. We need to build operating systems from the ground up in languages like Rust. We also need to let go of the UNIX way of doing things and move beyond it. It cannot possibly be the best there can ever be. Build them for modern hardware and even more so future hardware we can see coming down the line. Build them with security in mind from the ground up. Things like ransomware could be made close to impossible by an operating system. What will that be? I am not sure. I am hoping for a lot of people to try a lot of new things and allow things to evolve.

Clamchop 3y ago
A greenfield OS with real aspirations is a moonshot no matter what it's written in, so if we want to see systems-level investment in Rust that yields practical benefits...
kjs3 3y ago
We also need to let go of the UNIX way of doing things and move beyond it. So...dump all existing unix/linux software in the bin and start writing things like browsers and desktop managers and office suites from scratch. Have fun...see you in 20-30 years.
- remexre 3y ago
  Sounds like the entire Midori project only ran for 15, and iiuc it got all of that on top of a memory-safe kernel that was reinventing the language it was written in as the project was going.
  - kjs3 3y ago
    Where can I buy that laptop running Midori?
    - remexre 3y ago
      Presumably MS has it in cold storage somewhere... Maybe it'll get open-sourced some day, but I'm not holding my breath.
      - kjs3 3y ago
        Yeah, I shouldn't have been so flippant. But seriously, M$ spent 15 years and 100 or so engineers 'breaking with the past' to create (whatever its virtues) a closed source system that at the end of the day they said 'meh' to and mothballed. So an OSS attempt probably should probably temper its expectations.

Clamchop 3y ago

A greenfield OS with real aspirations is a moonshot no matter what it's written in, so if we want to see systems-level investment in Rust that yields practical benefits...

kjs3 3y ago

We also need to let go of the UNIX way of doing things and move beyond it. So...dump all existing unix/linux software in the bin and start writing things like browsers and desktop managers and office suites from scratch. Have fun...see you in 20-30 years.

remexre 3y ago
Sounds like the entire Midori project only ran for 15, and iiuc it got all of that on top of a memory-safe kernel that was reinventing the language it was written in as the project was going.
- kjs3 3y ago
  Where can I buy that laptop running Midori?
  - remexre 3y ago
    Presumably MS has it in cold storage somewhere... Maybe it'll get open-sourced some day, but I'm not holding my breath.
    - kjs3 3y ago
      Yeah, I shouldn't have been so flippant. But seriously, M$ spent 15 years and 100 or so engineers 'breaking with the past' to create (whatever its virtues) a closed source system that at the end of the day they said 'meh' to and mothballed. So an OSS attempt probably should probably temper its expectations.