I remember a big selling point for web components was that it wouldn't matter which framework you were using because they would just give you a common interface

I remember a big selling point for web components was that it wouldn't matter which framework you were using because they would just give you a common interface. But this isn't that useful if you still have to import some giant framework as a dependency, maybe the main exception to this is something like Svelte. The claim certainly feels like it has been downsized over time. If I'm already using the same framework between projects I can share components without web components. It just feels like a bait and switch when platform developers continue claiming things which never fully materialize. Maybe part of the blame goes to me as the reader for making assumptions. I've read through the HTML spec and try to keep up with web platform updates. That doesn't change the fact that React and friends _is_ the de facto web platform for tons of developers.