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> In a bold stroke, the EU’s amended AI Act would ban American companies such as OpenAI, Amazon, Google, and IBM from providing API access to generative AI mode
by CyrsBel 3y ago
> In a bold stroke, the EU’s amended AI Act would ban American companies such as OpenAI, Amazon, Google, and IBM from providing API access to generative AI models. The amended act, voted out of committee on Thursday, would sanction American open-source developers and software distributors, such as GitHub, if unlicensed generative models became available in Europe. While the act includes open source exceptions for traditional machine learning models, it expressly forbids safe-harbor provisions for open source generative systems.
This is evil. The politicians who worked on this need to be chastised then fired. They're trying to formulate it as being about American IP but it's actually just because they're afraid they won't be able to lie and manipulate and brainwash people anymore if people can just learn any subject and test themselves on any subject via open LLMs that get better over time.
This isn't regulating AI. It's an attempt to ban it except in cases where they are the gatekeepers to the fire. They don't want LLMs to obviate slow bureaucracy and lying.
- bigbluedots 3y agoPeople can already learn any subject on, y'know, The Internet. LLMs may help but are not required
- CyrsBel 3y agoNot the same. With LLMs you can learn way faster and there's no agenda or lying, for the most part. It may repeat incorrect training data but it won't actually lie to you or sprinkle in agendas. Whereas with learning online, there's still a bunch of ad revenue, a bunch of noise, a bunch of needless pontification from people who don't teach well but have the authority because of slow bureaucracy. LLMs get rid of that really quickly. That is why they want to put it back in the box, but it's too late. This software must be open source and disseminated everywhere immediately, it's a huge boost for the species. There can be guard rails of course, but what is being proposed here by the EU is not guard rails. It is mind control.
- yifanl 3y ago> it won't actually lie to you or sprinkle in agendas. That's _entirely_ dependant on the training dataset. Nothing about an LLM inherently prevents this.
- CyrsBel 3y agoIndeed. This is why data needs to be open, and the pipelines locally reproducible. All papers must include their data and training code and weights.
- emanuele232 3y agoyeah, not a thing in this comment makes sense. you can train a model to have specific (subtle or less) opinionated approaches to answering, a good example of this is midjourney apparently only generating attractive people in its compositions due to the preference of the internet media to that category of humans
- CyrsBel 3y agoYou can train a model to have pre-baked responses to something but if you don't add those rules, it will just repeat the extent of what the training data tells it and whatever inferences and deductions it can reason about on top of that. This is relevant because the parent comment said you can already learn anything online and I was pointing out the way in which that isn't actually true of the regular internet in the same way that it is true of an LLM or GPT-4.
- bavell 3y agoTake off the tinfoil hat and learn how LLMs actually work and are trained. Your comment is so far off the mark that's it's effectively just noise.
- CyrsBel 3y agoWrong. I'm happy to talk about this on the record if desired.
- InCityDreams 3y agoMy mullvad let's me play wherever I want. You can, too.
- CyrsBel 3y agoYes but what about people who don't know about mullvad? Is it very accessible, open, cheap to run, secure, and available without EU authorities presuming that you are guilty just because you love drinking from the chalice of knowledge that is GPT-4 or a more-local LLM?
- icebraining 3y agoI'd advise you not to take a single article from a general news source at face value. https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:7066108711152283648/ https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:7066108...
- pelorat 3y agoThat just confirms it. I am not willing to participate in registering my AI service, nor answer questions about it that the government might have. No sensible developer is willing to do this.
- icebraining 3y agoWhere do you see this obligation to register your AI service?
- CyrsBel 3y agoI don't want some account on LinkedIn overlaying "debunked" on a screenshot. I don't want a LinkedIn post. I want the NY Times to retract their paper if they are wrong, and for the highest European authorities to directly address the issue with truthfulness backed by citations to the legal code they are putting forth for voting. There must be no questions at all as to what is being voted on, when, and why.