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Invest in the grid and electricity production so that the many people for whom heat pumps are not a practical option have an affordable solution. France used t

Invest in the grid and electricity production so that the many people for whom heat pumps are not a practical option have an affordable solution. France used to push for all electric at home, with resistive electric heat because they had plenty of affordable electricity. I'm sure it's the same in countries with plenty of hydro. Now, here in the UK the grid is already maxed out. Renewable projects cannot go forward because they cannot connect to the grid. So the government is desperate, taking into account the bloodbath that's coming with EVs and that they want us to get rid of our gas boilers as well. Heat pumps minimise impact on grid and push a lot of the cost to people. I'm not saying that heat pumps should not be installed where a good fit, but in the real world there aren't in many situations and for many families's budgets. It's never black and white.

notacoward 3y ago
> Now, here in the UK the grid is already maxed out. A maxed-out grid is an argument in favor of heat pumps, since they're more efficient than resistive - especially at the temperatures that prevail in the UK.
- mytailorisrich 3y ago
  Yes, except that they are impractical and unaffordable for many, and that the grid just be upgraded anyway (EVs, etc), as I wrote in all my comments. I am just saying that heat pumps are no panacea and are not always a practical/viable option so let's not create another sacred cow here.
  - notacoward 3y ago
    > they are impractical and unaffordable for many If you're not going to provide any evidence, please stop making that claim. Heat pumps are not bulkier, noisier, or more expensive than any alternative that would suffice for most people. They are more efficient and environmentally benign, likewise. Using dogwhistles like "sacred cow" or insulting interlocutors is not going to carry the day for you.
    - mytailorisrich 3y ago
      Please be civil or "have a good day".
      - notacoward 3y ago
        Please take your own advice. Your reliance on fallacies, falsehoods, and repetition is toxic to civil discourse, and that's before we even get to the explicit accusation that everyone who disagrees with you has tunnel vision. Tone policing never works when it comes from the worst offender.

notacoward 3y ago

> Now, here in the UK the grid is already maxed out. A maxed-out grid is an argument in favor of heat pumps, since they're more efficient than resistive - especially at the temperatures that prevail in the UK.

mytailorisrich 3y ago
Yes, except that they are impractical and unaffordable for many, and that the grid just be upgraded anyway (EVs, etc), as I wrote in all my comments. I am just saying that heat pumps are no panacea and are not always a practical/viable option so let's not create another sacred cow here.
- notacoward 3y ago
  > they are impractical and unaffordable for many If you're not going to provide any evidence, please stop making that claim. Heat pumps are not bulkier, noisier, or more expensive than any alternative that would suffice for most people. They are more efficient and environmentally benign, likewise. Using dogwhistles like "sacred cow" or insulting interlocutors is not going to carry the day for you.
  - mytailorisrich 3y ago
    Please be civil or "have a good day".
    - notacoward 3y ago
      Please take your own advice. Your reliance on fallacies, falsehoods, and repetition is toxic to civil discourse, and that's before we even get to the explicit accusation that everyone who disagrees with you has tunnel vision. Tone policing never works when it comes from the worst offender.