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The Scunthorpe problem all over again. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scunthorpe_problem https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scunthorpe_problem
by franky47 3y ago
The Scunthorpe problem all over again.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scunthorpe_problem https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scunthorpe_problem
- ricardo81 3y agotee hee.
- retrocryptid 3y agowait... are you implying that "k*ygen" is a dirty word?
- deleted 3y ago[deleted]
- MSFT_Edging 3y agoDirty word in the context of security, copyright liability, etc.
- jrockway 3y agoAh yes, the age-old hacking tool: ssh-keygen.
- MSFT_Edging 3y agoDon't spill the hacker secrets!
- retrocryptid 3y agoJust learned "keygen" is the term the script-kiddies use to describe the act of generating fake activation keys. Never let it be said HN is not educational. But I feel the same way I felt when I noticed idiots using "crypto" to refer to cryptocurrency instead of cryptography.
- nailer 3y agoKeygen has been around for for at least 30 years, whereas people misusing the term “crypto” has only been around for five years or so.
- joelwilliamson 3y agoWhy is it a misuse to use "crypto" to refer to a currency whose design relies on secrets, but it's fine to use "crypto" to refer to keeping communications private using some secret information?
- nailer 3y agoI do crypto the airport (opening the barriers with my passport, where the computer in my passport signs a challenge encrypted with its pubkey) and do crypto with my phone (making a call, which is encrypted with Ericsson SNOW), and do crypto at the corner shop (using my card, same as the passport). If airports, phones, and corner shops claimed they 'work in crypto' it would be similarly misleading. Even Toly refers to himself as a distributed systems engineer, because building a blockchain involves more DS work than crypto work. FWIW I work in web3/defi, used to work in PKI.
- retrocryptid 3y ago"Crypto" has been around for much longer than 5 years. I remember someone using it in reference to a Motorola DES chip in the late 70s. And the IACR Crypto conference has been going on since the early 80s.
- jrockway 3y agoGreetings! I am here to derail the thread with a remark about "organic chemistry" versus "organic foods". Sometimes being there first doesn't mean you get to use the simplification forever. Cryptography is an older thing than cryptocurrency, but both are unwieldy to pronounce and have been simplified to "crypto". Since cryptography is math and cryptocurrencies (in the "popular" sphere) is a get rich quick scheme, the abbreviation that works for both generally became applied to the latter. I am sure organic chemists are a little weirded out when people tell them "oh yeah I love those new strawberries we got". This is that.
- Kiro 3y agoYou're getting downvoted but I also don't understand the relevance here. Parent seems to imply this is a mistake by npm relying on partial censorship but aren't they literally banning this exact word?
- joostdecock 3y agoDon't get me started
- LeifCarrotson 3y ago[flagged]
- franky47 3y agoI don't see the problem, it's a perfectly cromulent word.
- 8675309t 3y ago[flagged]
- chrsig 3y agoI mean, just to push one onto the stack... > When disagreeing, please reply to the argument instead of calling names. "That is idiotic; 1 + 1 is 2, not 3" can be shortened to "1 + 1 is 2, not 3." > Please don't post comments saying that HN is turning into Reddit. It's a semi-noob illusion, as old as the hills. > Don't feed egregious comments by replying; flag them instead. If you flag, please don't also comment that you did.
- 0ct4via 3y agoFYI, barking orders at people and swearing at them because you're personally offended by something said in humor, is much more stupid, and is arguably more unwelcome here than GP's comment.
- 8675309t 3y agoDon't do this here.
- zo1 3y agoShouldn't it be spelled "de Kok" if that's a surname?
- sebastialonso 3y agoThis page is a delight to read.
- georgyo 3y agoI only recently learned that my username for 20 years has "orgy" in it, and I've been getting blocked by many games
- jbinto 3y ago20+ years of this handle online without problems, and I found out trying to sign up for Stern Pinball Insider that "bint" is a dirty word: https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/bint https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/bint
- _a_a_a_ 3y agoReally isn't, it's about the same as calling a woman a cow.
- 0ct4via 3y agoWrong. Usage varies, but "bint" more commonly is akin to "b*tch", and is used in a very coarse and derogatory manner. Love how you're trying to justify degrees of acceptable misogynist terms, though /s
- _a_a_a_ 3y agoUm? Here in the UK it's uncommon to hear it these days but it carries no special weight. How come you're unwilling to spell the word bitch?
- 0ct4via 3y ago[flagged]
- true_religion 3y agoYou yourself imply there are different degrees to how acceptable the two terms are. Why else do you spell out one word but censor the other?
- jorvi 3y agoFilters like that are so trivial to bypass on a higher level too. Look at how many gamer or forum tags are “Lovecraft’s Cat”. And good luck catching those cases on a non-manual basis.
- zelse 3y agoI once happened across a Github where all the repos were subtle little bits of anti-Semitic cant relating to the Holocaust. More than subverting them, they also often function as dog-whistles for fellow travelers. (For those not getting the specific one used above, Lovecraft had a black cat and a common name for black cats at the time combined a now nigh-unprintable racial slur for black people with the word 'man'.)
- throwaway290 3y agoGithub has a reporting feature!
- nailer 3y agoThere’s an NFT collection called Milady which has subtle Holocaust references - ‘Treblinka’ written on shirts, the rarest traits are ‘SS’ tier etc.
- ta1243 3y agoMake sure you travel via Penistone on your way there
- politelemon 3y agoI assume that's near Scunthorpe
- quantified 3y agoHow does Massachusetts get a pass?
- nomel 3y agoRelated, here's a pretty impressive attempt to detect bad words, to allow a talking banana on a Twitch live stream, without being banned: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJ5ppf0po3k https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJ5ppf0po3k
- EvanDotPro 3y agoI use the same method for a Twitch TTS system I built and it works very, very well.
- throw10920 3y agoI call systems that attempt to filter out bad words and fall prey to the Scunthorpe problem as "failing the Scunthorpe test". There are people that fail the test, too - such as people who think that the terms "whitelist" and "blacklist" are offensive.