HN comments about ML and AI are so obviously un- or under-informed to the point of pure fancy and speculation that I've simply stopped trying to engage with peo

HN comments about ML and AI are so obviously un- or under-informed to the point of pure fancy and speculation that I've simply stopped trying to engage with people who don't want to confront how ill-equipped they are to be involved in discussions on the topic. Sometimes they acquire some narrow bit of useful information but without wider context they end up quickly re-introducing bullshit to the discussion. It's a very real chilling effect that's happened a couple times in different communities I've been part of. Typically the dilution of quality discussion comes after a sharp influx of what could be crudely labeled 'normies' (those entering a hype cycle anew from the outside with no prior experience) who have their own under-developed ideas and can't discern between experts and bullshitters in flattened discussion spaces. What complicates the discussions so much is those normies' insistence on engaging in high school debate club tactics which are really just rhetorical devices designed (consciously or otherwise) to disguise logical fallacies as 140-character truth bombs.