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>99% of the people don't care. People do care. They just don't have much, if any, choice.

by M2Ys4U 3y ago

aurareturn 3y ago
They do. Neeva, founded by a former Google exec, built a search engine that had no ads and no tracking. No surveillance capital. They just shut down because no one wanted to pay for it - hence the idea that 99% don't care about surveillance capital enough. Source: https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-65671468 https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-65671468
- aaomidi 3y ago
  1. Neeva sounds like a hairspray brand. Not a search engine. 2. It's literally just a claim. I have no way of verifying the claim. Them asking me to pay for it makes it more sus. 3. I use searx already. Which I can confirm isn’t “spying” on me because it has nothing to tie me to my IRL identity. 4. It was a Bing reseller. I don’t care for Bing resellers.
  - aurareturn 3y ago
    The point is that it had no "surveillance capitalism". It failed because no one cares about that enough - proving that people prefer free with data mining/ads over subscriptions for many internet products.
    - comte7092 3y ago
      >It failed because no one cares about that enough You say that like there aren’t numerous other competitors in the space: DuckDuckGo, Kagi, Brave, searx, qwant, startpage, etc, etc. These services provide both paid and ad based models. Neeva failed because of its own issues. I am in their target market and I had never even heard of them until they shut down. Starting any business is extremely challenging, one failing doesn’t imply there was no market.
      - aurareturn 3y ago
        So there are plenty of alternatives and competitors. Problem solved.
    - aaomidi 3y ago
      Except it literally had an exact connection to my identity and they had the data to do what they wanted to 4 years down the line when investors demanded more returns. Just…no. This is giving me vibes of the FBI “secure” phones. Fuck that.
- M2Ys4U 3y ago
  Nice cherry, did you pick it yourself?

>99% of the people don't care. People do care. They just don't have much, if any, choice.

by M2Ys4U 3y ago

>99% of the people don't care. People do care. They just don't have much, if any, choice.

They do. Neeva, founded by a former Google exec, built a search engine that had no ads and no tracking. No surveillance capital. They just shut down because no one wanted to pay for it - hence the idea that 99% don't care about surveillance capital enough. Source: https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-65671468 https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-65671468

aaomidi 3y ago
1. Neeva sounds like a hairspray brand. Not a search engine. 2. It's literally just a claim. I have no way of verifying the claim. Them asking me to pay for it makes it more sus. 3. I use searx already. Which I can confirm isn’t “spying” on me because it has nothing to tie me to my IRL identity. 4. It was a Bing reseller. I don’t care for Bing resellers.
- aurareturn 3y ago
  The point is that it had no "surveillance capitalism". It failed because no one cares about that enough - proving that people prefer free with data mining/ads over subscriptions for many internet products.
  - comte7092 3y ago
    >It failed because no one cares about that enough You say that like there aren’t numerous other competitors in the space: DuckDuckGo, Kagi, Brave, searx, qwant, startpage, etc, etc. These services provide both paid and ad based models. Neeva failed because of its own issues. I am in their target market and I had never even heard of them until they shut down. Starting any business is extremely challenging, one failing doesn’t imply there was no market.
    - aurareturn 3y ago
      So there are plenty of alternatives and competitors. Problem solved.
  - aaomidi 3y ago
    Except it literally had an exact connection to my identity and they had the data to do what they wanted to 4 years down the line when investors demanded more returns. Just…no. This is giving me vibes of the FBI “secure” phones. Fuck that.
M2Ys4U 3y ago
Nice cherry, did you pick it yourself?