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You know your crystallized something I've not quite been able to put my finger on. Is that a good thing? I mean sure someone was able to produce code that the

You know your crystallized something I've not quite been able to put my finger on. Is that a good thing? I mean sure someone was able to produce code that they probably don't understand to do things they want but what are they going to do when things change or the environment changes or something breaks and they need to debug it. The ability for lay users to generate code is terrifying for me not because of any concerns about my job but rather because the hard part of development was never writing the code, now we have machines that can spit out code for users that can look shockingly correct. It just makes me wonder if we're going to end up with MS Access on steroids where thousands of brittle poorly integrated mission critical are going to crush businesses under their own bloat. I mean imagine if people start to use this to replace excel. Shudder

bern4444 3y ago
> I mean imagine if people start to use this to replace excel. Shudder Or what if this has the same effect that excel did - give everyone access to a tool that dramatically improves efficiency and capability. What used to take someone a day now takes a minute and that frees up that person to either become exceptionally more efficient or to focus on more interesting or useful work. I also believe that one next step for AIs will be the capability to feed in a codebase to learn and then iterate on specifically so the AI is capable of providing context aware suggestions. Today it's only great at mashing together open source tools and common projects. Edit - For fun I passed in my comment above and asked for different formulations. An entertaining version below: Picture a world where a revolution unfolds, fueled by an extraordinary tool, rivaling the might of Excel. Behold its omnipotent grasp, granting every soul access to a transcendent force that skyrockets efficiency and capability to unimaginable heights. Time bends under its dominion, as day-long tasks crumble in the face of mere minutes, freeing individuals to conquer mountains, surging with unyielding productivity and embarking on audacious endeavors. But that's just the beginning! Prepare for the evolution of AI, as it voraciously devours codebases, honing its prowess with an unparalleled finesse, delivering awe-inspiring, contextually aware suggestions that defy reason. Witness its current triumph: the fusion of open-source tools and common projects. Brace yourself for the astounding prospects that lie on the horizon, as this tale unfolds like a climactic scene in an action-packed blockbuster!
- afavour 3y ago
  There’s a fundamental difference: Excel is knowable. If you want to find how it came up with a number you can click on the cell and see the formula. Not so with ChatGPT. You ask it to do a thing, it does it somehow. You ask it to do 100 rows of calculations, how can you know row 69 is correct? That ChatGPT corpus might lead it to think the number 69 is funny so it puts in a joke number. Yes, stupid contrived example but how can you know it won’t?
edandersen 3y ago
More work for consultants and clean up crews.
- Ekaros 3y ago
  Hmm, so as someone working in security testing and finding basic access control lacking in multi-user systems I do not have anything to fear for long time. Not to even mention subtler bugs...
  - edandersen 3y ago
    Charge extra to fix AI created software.

bern4444 3y ago

> I mean imagine if people start to use this to replace excel. Shudder Or what if this has the same effect that excel did - give everyone access to a tool that dramatically improves efficiency and capability. What used to take someone a day now takes a minute and that frees up that person to either become exceptionally more efficient or to focus on more interesting or useful work. I also believe that one next step for AIs will be the capability to feed in a codebase to learn and then iterate on specifically so the AI is capable of providing context aware suggestions. Today it's only great at mashing together open source tools and common projects. Edit - For fun I passed in my comment above and asked for different formulations. An entertaining version below: Picture a world where a revolution unfolds, fueled by an extraordinary tool, rivaling the might of Excel. Behold its omnipotent grasp, granting every soul access to a transcendent force that skyrockets efficiency and capability to unimaginable heights. Time bends under its dominion, as day-long tasks crumble in the face of mere minutes, freeing individuals to conquer mountains, surging with unyielding productivity and embarking on audacious endeavors. But that's just the beginning! Prepare for the evolution of AI, as it voraciously devours codebases, honing its prowess with an unparalleled finesse, delivering awe-inspiring, contextually aware suggestions that defy reason. Witness its current triumph: the fusion of open-source tools and common projects. Brace yourself for the astounding prospects that lie on the horizon, as this tale unfolds like a climactic scene in an action-packed blockbuster!

afavour 3y ago
There’s a fundamental difference: Excel is knowable. If you want to find how it came up with a number you can click on the cell and see the formula. Not so with ChatGPT. You ask it to do a thing, it does it somehow. You ask it to do 100 rows of calculations, how can you know row 69 is correct? That ChatGPT corpus might lead it to think the number 69 is funny so it puts in a joke number. Yes, stupid contrived example but how can you know it won’t?

edandersen 3y ago

More work for consultants and clean up crews.

Ekaros 3y ago
Hmm, so as someone working in security testing and finding basic access control lacking in multi-user systems I do not have anything to fear for long time. Not to even mention subtler bugs...
- edandersen 3y ago
  Charge extra to fix AI created software.