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I highly suspect anything critical of Reddit is being flagged to death on HN. This post was #1 with more than 100 upvotes in 39 minutes. Now it keeps going lowe

by ent101 3y ago

I highly suspect anything critical of Reddit is being flagged to death on HN. This post was #1 with more than 100 upvotes in 39 minutes. Now it keeps going lower and lower.

ent101 3y ago
Now it's #6. How's this even possible?!
- arcanemachiner 3y ago
  I've noticed this place seems to have a really high churn rate. I often find myself replying to comments that are only 5 minutes old. :P
- CamelCaseName 3y ago
  Inciteful posts rank lower. Incitefulness being ranked as some function where upvotes increase the score and number of comments decreases it.
  - Jtsummers 3y ago
    Yeah, dang's discussed that in the past. Among other factors for ranking is the comment:upvote ratio. And I think quality of comments and discussion, they have a flamewar detector (speed of replies and depth of comment thread nesting) which can also impact ranking.
dredmorbius 3y ago
That's most probably based on member flags, not moderator action. Note that HN also deprecates stale stories, where "stale" includes "ongoing discussion of some present drama", e.g., bitcoin and NFCs last year, or GPT currently. dang's discussed this occasionally, see: <https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35463948 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35463948> HN specifically doesn't moderate posts critical of YC company down, though Reddit's so long out of the gate I'm not sure that still applies. See: <https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35463948 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35463948> There've been 116 stories mentioning "Reddit" with > 20 votes between 2023-5-13 and 2023-6-14. <https://hn.algolia.com/?dateEnd=1686720501&dateRange=custom&dateStart=1684022400&page=0&prefix=true&query=reddit%20points%3E20&sort=byPopularity&type=story https://hn.algolia.com/?dateEnd=1686720501&dateRange=custom&...> I'm doing analysis based on HN front page listings and could update that to see what the actual surviving front-page story count is. It's been ... fairly substantial. Fewer than 3% of submissions make the front page, and that's exclusive of spammed or moderated content. Update / Edit: There've been 16 front-page stories on Reddit since 31 May beginning with "Had a call with Reddit to discuss pricing" (<https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36141083 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36141083>). As compared with prior years, the 2023 mention rate is well above both the 5- and 10-year history (showing year and HN front-page mentions of "Reddit"): 2007 41 2008 31 2009 15 2010 44 2011 41 2012 46 2013 28 2014 27 2015 27 2016 19 2017 15 2018 15 2019 12 2020 24 2021 12 2022 13 2023 21 (Source: own data & analysis based on a crawl of all HN front-pages through 2023-06-13.)

by ent101 3y ago

I highly suspect anything critical of Reddit is being flagged to death on HN. This post was #1 with more than 100 upvotes in 39 minutes. Now it keeps going lower and lower.

ent101 3y ago

Now it's #6. How's this even possible?!

arcanemachiner 3y ago
I've noticed this place seems to have a really high churn rate. I often find myself replying to comments that are only 5 minutes old. :P
CamelCaseName 3y ago
Inciteful posts rank lower. Incitefulness being ranked as some function where upvotes increase the score and number of comments decreases it.
- Jtsummers 3y ago
  Yeah, dang's discussed that in the past. Among other factors for ranking is the comment:upvote ratio. And I think quality of comments and discussion, they have a flamewar detector (speed of replies and depth of comment thread nesting) which can also impact ranking.

dredmorbius 3y ago

That's most probably based on member flags, not moderator action. Note that HN also deprecates stale stories, where "stale" includes "ongoing discussion of some present drama", e.g., bitcoin and NFCs last year, or GPT currently. dang's discussed this occasionally, see: <https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35463948 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35463948> HN specifically doesn't moderate posts critical of YC company down, though Reddit's so long out of the gate I'm not sure that still applies. See: <https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35463948 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35463948> There've been 116 stories mentioning "Reddit" with > 20 votes between 2023-5-13 and 2023-6-14. <https://hn.algolia.com/?dateEnd=1686720501&dateRange=custom&dateStart=1684022400&page=0&prefix=true&query=reddit%20points%3E20&sort=byPopularity&type=story https://hn.algolia.com/?dateEnd=1686720501&dateRange=custom&...> I'm doing analysis based on HN front page listings and could update that to see what the actual surviving front-page story count is. It's been ... fairly substantial. Fewer than 3% of submissions make the front page, and that's exclusive of spammed or moderated content. Update / Edit: There've been 16 front-page stories on Reddit since 31 May beginning with "Had a call with Reddit to discuss pricing" (<https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36141083 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36141083>). As compared with prior years, the 2023 mention rate is well above both the 5- and 10-year history (showing year and HN front-page mentions of "Reddit"): 2007 41 2008 31 2009 15 2010 44 2011 41 2012 46 2013 28 2014 27 2015 27 2016 19 2017 15 2018 15 2019 12 2020 24 2021 12 2022 13 2023 21 (Source: own data & analysis based on a crawl of all HN front-pages through 2023-06-13.)