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It's a "standard" amount for rice cookers- https://www.thespruceeats.com/measuring-rice-for-rice-cookers-1907466 https://www.thespruceeats.com/measuring-rice-fo

by temp12192021 3y ago

It's a "standard" amount for rice cookers- https://www.thespruceeats.com/measuring-rice-for-rice-cookers-1907466 https://www.thespruceeats.com/measuring-rice-for-rice-cooker... 1 rice cup produces 1 cup of rice when cooked

OJFord 3y ago
That says 180ml, so similar but different again? Still dumb either way. Don't call it 'cup', if you must use cups just use ⅔cup? It's like if I invent an 'air fryer' as though that's something new, and then talk about an '18" oven tray' which is actually 6" wide, but in my air fryer line that's the measurement of what we call '18" oven tray'. Who's winning what? How is this good for anyone?
- ndiddy 3y ago
  It’s fairly standard for cooking appliances. What your coffee maker refers to as a “cup” is also not a cup.
  - OJFord 3y ago
    What's a 'coffee maker'? My espresso machine's portafilter basket takes as much coffee as I put in it. So does a cafetière. A Nespresso/other pod based machine is a fixed amount which as far as I'm aware is always specified in ml if at all.
    - rdlw 3y ago
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coffeemaker https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coffeemaker
      - OJFord 3y ago
        Ok, the first picture there is of a Turkish stove-top style device which (and the vague description of any coffee-making device too) as I said takes as much as you put in, where do cups come in to it? If you use cups to measure coffee, fine (I don't measure, but I think grams would be more normal) - or if your specific 'coffee maker' came with a cup, fine, but don't over-generalise? I mean not even over-generalise - GP told me my 'coffee maker' came with a non-standard cup; I promise you it came with no cups whatsoever. (It's a Rancilio Silvia, the stock basket has a max capacity of probably 18? 21? grams - definitely less than any 'cup', about a tablespoon. But that's a physical maximum and nobody called it a cup or suggested it was for measurement.)
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        rdlw 3y ago
        Maybe it's different on mobile but I see a moka pot as the first image. I have a 6-cup model, which has a 12 oz. capacity. The point is that no one really uses those as measurements, they're not useful. But almost every coffee maker comes labeled with cups anyway for some reason, probably marketing for comparison shoppers. Obviously you're right that espresso machines don't have cup markings (however that would even work), but I have to say this is the first time I've seen someone call an espresso machine a coffee maker (hence my uh... curt previous response, sorry about that).
        OJFord 3y ago
        I see the same, I just forgot the word and also confused it with the Turkish cevze. As in, had always confused them, I didn't realise moka pots were Italian. Anyway - I'm pretty confident you won't find Italians in Italy talking about the cup size of their moka pot or using cups to measure coffee grounds/water into it. I've never heard an espresso machine called a coffee maker either, but I've never heard the latter term at all, hence this whole thread. Sounds like a refusal to call someone (i.e. a person, not machine) a 'barista' to me.
    - brianpan 3y ago
      https://www.target.com/p/mr-coffee-5-cup-switch-coffee-maker-black-2129512/-/A-78604175 https://www.target.com/p/mr-coffee-5-cup-switch-coffee-maker... Mr Coffee carafe markings is 5oz per cup. This is not an espresso machine that makes "small" cups. This is a good old fashioned American pot of coffee and I can tell you what they call a FIVE cup coffee maker makes an actual 2 cups of coffee.
- throw0101b 3y ago
  > That says 180ml, so similar but different again? Please note the adjectives: > While a standard U.S. cup measure is 240 milliliters, a rice cup according to rice industry standards is much smaller at 180 milliliters.
donw 3y ago
It's called a "Go" (合) in Japanese, and is equivalent to 3/4 cup (180mL).
- carlmr 3y ago
  Interesting. In Chinese 合 (hé) can mean whole, but also pronounced gê (I don't have e with 3rd tone character) it can mean a measure of grain or 100ml. 公合(gōnggê) can be used to be specific here.
Reason077 3y ago
> ”1 rice cup produces 1 cup of rice when cooked” Will vary depending on the type of rice, but in general, rice expands much more than that when cooked. Somewhere around 2-3X the uncooked volume.
unmole 3y ago
Maybe standard in Japan. Rice cookers in India come with 160ml cups.
- pritambaral 3y ago
  The standard Indian measurement of rice is done by the mutthi (handful) and nazar (eyeballed). That's what I've seen moms and aunts and even career cooks do. This is also the crowd that rarely agrees with cooking their rice in a rice cooker. Not surprising, since they rarely agree with each other on how best to cook which rice. I still enjoy the reactions (of surprise, disappointment, and sometimes mild derision) when I tell people I prefer to cook my rice in a microwave. Nevertheless, the idea of a standard fixed-volume measure of rice, by the volume it occupies after cooking, seems a poor concept to me, because the factor by which rice grows when cooked varies by breed/variety, level of processing, even soak time. That's why, I was told, the mutthi and nazar system is better.

OJFord 3y ago

That says 180ml, so similar but different again? Still dumb either way. Don't call it 'cup', if you must use cups just use ⅔cup? It's like if I invent an 'air fryer' as though that's something new, and then talk about an '18" oven tray' which is actually 6" wide, but in my air fryer line that's the measurement of what we call '18" oven tray'. Who's winning what? How is this good for anyone?

ndiddy 3y ago
It’s fairly standard for cooking appliances. What your coffee maker refers to as a “cup” is also not a cup.
- OJFord 3y ago
  What's a 'coffee maker'? My espresso machine's portafilter basket takes as much coffee as I put in it. So does a cafetière. A Nespresso/other pod based machine is a fixed amount which as far as I'm aware is always specified in ml if at all.
  - rdlw 3y ago
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coffeemaker https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coffeemaker
    - OJFord 3y ago
      Ok, the first picture there is of a Turkish stove-top style device which (and the vague description of any coffee-making device too) as I said takes as much as you put in, where do cups come in to it? If you use cups to measure coffee, fine (I don't measure, but I think grams would be more normal) - or if your specific 'coffee maker' came with a cup, fine, but don't over-generalise? I mean not even over-generalise - GP told me my 'coffee maker' came with a non-standard cup; I promise you it came with no cups whatsoever. (It's a Rancilio Silvia, the stock basket has a max capacity of probably 18? 21? grams - definitely less than any 'cup', about a tablespoon. But that's a physical maximum and nobody called it a cup or suggested it was for measurement.)
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      - rdlw 3y ago
        Maybe it's different on mobile but I see a moka pot as the first image. I have a 6-cup model, which has a 12 oz. capacity. The point is that no one really uses those as measurements, they're not useful. But almost every coffee maker comes labeled with cups anyway for some reason, probably marketing for comparison shoppers. Obviously you're right that espresso machines don't have cup markings (however that would even work), but I have to say this is the first time I've seen someone call an espresso machine a coffee maker (hence my uh... curt previous response, sorry about that).
        OJFord 3y ago
        I see the same, I just forgot the word and also confused it with the Turkish cevze. As in, had always confused them, I didn't realise moka pots were Italian. Anyway - I'm pretty confident you won't find Italians in Italy talking about the cup size of their moka pot or using cups to measure coffee grounds/water into it. I've never heard an espresso machine called a coffee maker either, but I've never heard the latter term at all, hence this whole thread. Sounds like a refusal to call someone (i.e. a person, not machine) a 'barista' to me.
  - brianpan 3y ago
    https://www.target.com/p/mr-coffee-5-cup-switch-coffee-maker-black-2129512/-/A-78604175 https://www.target.com/p/mr-coffee-5-cup-switch-coffee-maker... Mr Coffee carafe markings is 5oz per cup. This is not an espresso machine that makes "small" cups. This is a good old fashioned American pot of coffee and I can tell you what they call a FIVE cup coffee maker makes an actual 2 cups of coffee.
throw0101b 3y ago
> That says 180ml, so similar but different again? Please note the adjectives: > While a standard U.S. cup measure is 240 milliliters, a rice cup according to rice industry standards is much smaller at 180 milliliters.

donw 3y ago

It's called a "Go" (合) in Japanese, and is equivalent to 3/4 cup (180mL).

carlmr 3y ago
Interesting. In Chinese 合 (hé) can mean whole, but also pronounced gê (I don't have e with 3rd tone character) it can mean a measure of grain or 100ml. 公合(gōnggê) can be used to be specific here.

Reason077 3y ago

> ”1 rice cup produces 1 cup of rice when cooked” Will vary depending on the type of rice, but in general, rice expands much more than that when cooked. Somewhere around 2-3X the uncooked volume.

unmole 3y ago

Maybe standard in Japan. Rice cookers in India come with 160ml cups.

pritambaral 3y ago
The standard Indian measurement of rice is done by the mutthi (handful) and nazar (eyeballed). That's what I've seen moms and aunts and even career cooks do. This is also the crowd that rarely agrees with cooking their rice in a rice cooker. Not surprising, since they rarely agree with each other on how best to cook which rice. I still enjoy the reactions (of surprise, disappointment, and sometimes mild derision) when I tell people I prefer to cook my rice in a microwave. Nevertheless, the idea of a standard fixed-volume measure of rice, by the volume it occupies after cooking, seems a poor concept to me, because the factor by which rice grows when cooked varies by breed/variety, level of processing, even soak time. That's why, I was told, the mutthi and nazar system is better.