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In either case, it feels a little overly dramatic to worry too much about a scenario where HR asks you to not use a word anymore. Is this what people mean when

In either case, it feels a little overly dramatic to worry too much about a scenario where HR asks you to not use a word anymore. Is this what people mean when they worry about people being cancelled?

monksy 3y ago
Is it overly dramatic to have HR dictate formally non-offensive speach? (I'm talking about non-derogatory and non-slur based language) Right now there is a wave of people that are upset over "violent language" (https://hopeandsafety.org/learn-more/violent-language/ https://hopeandsafety.org/learn-more/violent-language/) If push comes to shove.. they'd lose their marbles over that.
- magicalist 3y ago
  > Right now there is a wave of people that are upset over "violent language" There's absolutely nothing on that page to indicate they're upset about violent language > If push comes to shove.. they'd lose their marbles over that. There's even less indication of that. If the goal is for fewer people to overreact, why are we inventing boogeymen to overreact about?
  - monksy 3y ago
    That page is there making a statement of examples of "bad language". It's an organization shooting it's shot on language change. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11714189/Latest-phrases-branded-offensive-violent-undertones.html https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11714189/Latest-phr... (DailyMail.. yuck yes) https://www.fastcompany.com/90865534/its-time-stop-using-violent-words-phrases-work https://www.fastcompany.com/90865534/its-time-stop-using-vio... https://elizabethgrim.com/adopting-inclusive-and-non-violent-language-part-2/ https://elizabethgrim.com/adopting-inclusive-and-non-violent...
    - magicalist 3y ago
      lol, again it's the dailymail article that's trembling with terror at imagined grievances, while the non-violent language advocates are like, "hey, kind of weird these phrases are about shooting people, here's some alternatives if you want them." > The guide is for those who would like to replace mostly violently framed idioms with more positive and inclusive language Clearly this is a dog whistle and they're coming for me and my guns(-related words)
- Volundr 3y ago
  > Is it overly dramatic to have HR dictate formally non-offensive speach? (I'm talking about non-derogatory and non-slur based language) Your question is phrased in such a way that I honestly can't figure out how to answer it, but non-derogatory and non-slur based does not mean non-offensive and never has. As I previously mentioned people are plenty creative at hiding insults in "respectful" words. See also: the many nuances of "bless your heart"
pizzafeelsright 3y ago
Not cancelled per se, at least for me, but just the PITA equation of dealing with getting fired, having to find a new job, or having my language policed. Maybe that is being dramatic or pragmatic. When it comes to my professional work - if apologizes are not accepted I will not work at the company. If there are words that I cannot say - I request a list. Thankfully my current company is great.

monksy 3y ago

Is it overly dramatic to have HR dictate formally non-offensive speach? (I'm talking about non-derogatory and non-slur based language) Right now there is a wave of people that are upset over "violent language" (https://hopeandsafety.org/learn-more/violent-language/ https://hopeandsafety.org/learn-more/violent-language/) If push comes to shove.. they'd lose their marbles over that.

magicalist 3y ago
> Right now there is a wave of people that are upset over "violent language" There's absolutely nothing on that page to indicate they're upset about violent language > If push comes to shove.. they'd lose their marbles over that. There's even less indication of that. If the goal is for fewer people to overreact, why are we inventing boogeymen to overreact about?
- monksy 3y ago
  That page is there making a statement of examples of "bad language". It's an organization shooting it's shot on language change. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11714189/Latest-phrases-branded-offensive-violent-undertones.html https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11714189/Latest-phr... (DailyMail.. yuck yes) https://www.fastcompany.com/90865534/its-time-stop-using-violent-words-phrases-work https://www.fastcompany.com/90865534/its-time-stop-using-vio... https://elizabethgrim.com/adopting-inclusive-and-non-violent-language-part-2/ https://elizabethgrim.com/adopting-inclusive-and-non-violent...
  - magicalist 3y ago
    lol, again it's the dailymail article that's trembling with terror at imagined grievances, while the non-violent language advocates are like, "hey, kind of weird these phrases are about shooting people, here's some alternatives if you want them." > The guide is for those who would like to replace mostly violently framed idioms with more positive and inclusive language Clearly this is a dog whistle and they're coming for me and my guns(-related words)
Volundr 3y ago
> Is it overly dramatic to have HR dictate formally non-offensive speach? (I'm talking about non-derogatory and non-slur based language) Your question is phrased in such a way that I honestly can't figure out how to answer it, but non-derogatory and non-slur based does not mean non-offensive and never has. As I previously mentioned people are plenty creative at hiding insults in "respectful" words. See also: the many nuances of "bless your heart"

pizzafeelsright 3y ago

Not cancelled per se, at least for me, but just the PITA equation of dealing with getting fired, having to find a new job, or having my language policed. Maybe that is being dramatic or pragmatic. When it comes to my professional work - if apologizes are not accepted I will not work at the company. If there are words that I cannot say - I request a list. Thankfully my current company is great.