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I mean that's a common knowledge, no? if the cost of raw materials goes up, manufacturers hike up the prices of the final goods and consumers pay for it.

wvenable 3y ago
Most people are perfectly happy paying for cost of materials + reasonable profit. It was expected. Reddit announced a month ago that were going to charge for API access -- no issues then. The Apollo developer himself already pays for API access for other services (like Imgur). However when they announced both the pricing and the timeline, it's pretty clear that they are unreasonable. Apollo finding it unsustainable is just one developer and one app. Other developers tried to reach out to Reddit to actually sign up and get more information and they were ignored. In principle, you are correct, this not a big deal. But in practice, it's been a total disaster. And didn't have to be that way -- they could have worked with their "partners" to ensure a win-win situation for everyone. Instead, they turned it into a lose-lose for everyone. They want control more than they want money. Reddit would rather get rid of me than find a way for me to pay and I'd be happy to pay for it.
- perfectstorm 3y ago
  sounds like reddit want to kill all third party apps which is a bit unfortunate but this business practice is not very uncommon (Apple/Google with their 30% fees).
  - wvenable 3y ago
    I'm not sure how Apple/Google 30% relates? Those companies do a lot to support businesses on their platform. If you don't want to change anything, you get free hosting. For payments, they provide the entire infrastructure to support developers. It's a mutually beneficial arrangement even if the fees are quite high. If Reddit does want to kill all third party apps complaining about how they haven't done a single thing to actually support 3rd party developers is kind of moot. But the point of the protest is how underhanded that is; they would be manipulating users and developers by lying about the whole thing. And if they actually didn't want to kill all third party apps then they still lied and are also incompetent.
    - perfectstorm 3y ago
      The reason why they provide the payment infrastructure is because they can control everything end to end. Imagine if they allow payments outside the app and expect developers to pay 30% for those transactions. Yeah, that's not going to work. I don't think Apple/Google does payment infrastructure out of good heart. They just want to know how much an app makes and how much commission to take.
      - wvenable 3y ago
        I don't disagree and yet it's still a service that they provide. Dealing with user accounts, payments, refunds, taxes, recurring billing, support, etc is a pain (I know, I've done it).

wvenable 3y ago

Most people are perfectly happy paying for cost of materials + reasonable profit. It was expected. Reddit announced a month ago that were going to charge for API access -- no issues then. The Apollo developer himself already pays for API access for other services (like Imgur). However when they announced both the pricing and the timeline, it's pretty clear that they are unreasonable. Apollo finding it unsustainable is just one developer and one app. Other developers tried to reach out to Reddit to actually sign up and get more information and they were ignored. In principle, you are correct, this not a big deal. But in practice, it's been a total disaster. And didn't have to be that way -- they could have worked with their "partners" to ensure a win-win situation for everyone. Instead, they turned it into a lose-lose for everyone. They want control more than they want money. Reddit would rather get rid of me than find a way for me to pay and I'd be happy to pay for it.

perfectstorm 3y ago
sounds like reddit want to kill all third party apps which is a bit unfortunate but this business practice is not very uncommon (Apple/Google with their 30% fees).
- wvenable 3y ago
  I'm not sure how Apple/Google 30% relates? Those companies do a lot to support businesses on their platform. If you don't want to change anything, you get free hosting. For payments, they provide the entire infrastructure to support developers. It's a mutually beneficial arrangement even if the fees are quite high. If Reddit does want to kill all third party apps complaining about how they haven't done a single thing to actually support 3rd party developers is kind of moot. But the point of the protest is how underhanded that is; they would be manipulating users and developers by lying about the whole thing. And if they actually didn't want to kill all third party apps then they still lied and are also incompetent.
  - perfectstorm 3y ago
    The reason why they provide the payment infrastructure is because they can control everything end to end. Imagine if they allow payments outside the app and expect developers to pay 30% for those transactions. Yeah, that's not going to work. I don't think Apple/Google does payment infrastructure out of good heart. They just want to know how much an app makes and how much commission to take.
    - wvenable 3y ago
      I don't disagree and yet it's still a service that they provide. Dealing with user accounts, payments, refunds, taxes, recurring billing, support, etc is a pain (I know, I've done it).