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What's your time frame on "long form articles are more popular than ever"? And are you using relative or absolute popularity? E.g. "medium form" articles in po

What's your time frame on "long form articles are more popular than ever"? And are you using relative or absolute popularity? E.g. "medium form" articles in pop magazines were probably always more popular than longform ones in literary mags, but were they more relatively popular than "tweets" or "tiktok videos"? Would a three hour film like Doctor Zhivago ever sell 248 million tickets today? And that number has a lower total population size to pull from! For a focused experience without your phone, or work, or anything else (compared to listening to a podcast in the background while working or driving)? There are groups that still enjoy, or are learning to enjoy, longer stuff still. But that's not the dominant trend.

com2kid 3y ago
> Would a three hour film like Doctor Zhivago ever sell 248 million tickets today? Avatar, Way Of The Water, a 3 hour movie, broke all sorts of sales records (though # of tickets sold data apparently isn't out yet). Heck Avengers End Game was 3 hours long and it sold 351 million tickets. I do think you get less of the repeat sales now days vs even in the 90s, just because there are so many more movies coming out, both in Cinema and on streaming platforms, but that doesn't say anything about people's willingness to attend long movies.
- dacryn 3y ago
  those are unfair comparisons. They are franchises, not standalone projects. Much like you are more keen to see a video from a creator you have enjoyed in the past. The barrier to entry is lower. And the avengers have comic books as well as an excuse to yourself that it's probably worth it to risk putting your time into watching the movie. Now think of a random movie, I call it 'The study of Protastores' It's a made up name, it has the word study in it. Would you go and watch it if it was 3 hours long? You it would be a difficult pitch, even if it is the best movie ever and has an exciting thumbnail
  - zimpenfish 3y ago
    > They are franchises, not standalone projects. Sure but it's not like Dr Zhivago (widely popular book, won the Nobel Prize for Pasternak in 1958) was an unknown project from an unknown director (David Lean, 7 Oscars in 1957 for Kwai, 7 Oscars in 1962 for Lawrence of Arabia) featuring an unknown cast.
jdietrich 3y ago
>Would a three hour film like Doctor Zhivago ever sell 248 million tickets today? No, partly because the media landscape is much more fragmented with much more choice and partly because streaming services are now the natural destination for serious long-form drama. If you were a screenwriter pitching Doctor Zhivago today, you'd pitch it to Netflix. Nobody goes to the movies to watch a historical epic today, but nobody in the 1960s was binge-watching subtitled foreign drama on TV.

com2kid 3y ago

> Would a three hour film like Doctor Zhivago ever sell 248 million tickets today? Avatar, Way Of The Water, a 3 hour movie, broke all sorts of sales records (though # of tickets sold data apparently isn't out yet). Heck Avengers End Game was 3 hours long and it sold 351 million tickets. I do think you get less of the repeat sales now days vs even in the 90s, just because there are so many more movies coming out, both in Cinema and on streaming platforms, but that doesn't say anything about people's willingness to attend long movies.

dacryn 3y ago
those are unfair comparisons. They are franchises, not standalone projects. Much like you are more keen to see a video from a creator you have enjoyed in the past. The barrier to entry is lower. And the avengers have comic books as well as an excuse to yourself that it's probably worth it to risk putting your time into watching the movie. Now think of a random movie, I call it 'The study of Protastores' It's a made up name, it has the word study in it. Would you go and watch it if it was 3 hours long? You it would be a difficult pitch, even if it is the best movie ever and has an exciting thumbnail
- zimpenfish 3y ago
  > They are franchises, not standalone projects. Sure but it's not like Dr Zhivago (widely popular book, won the Nobel Prize for Pasternak in 1958) was an unknown project from an unknown director (David Lean, 7 Oscars in 1957 for Kwai, 7 Oscars in 1962 for Lawrence of Arabia) featuring an unknown cast.

jdietrich 3y ago

>Would a three hour film like Doctor Zhivago ever sell 248 million tickets today? No, partly because the media landscape is much more fragmented with much more choice and partly because streaming services are now the natural destination for serious long-form drama. If you were a screenwriter pitching Doctor Zhivago today, you'd pitch it to Netflix. Nobody goes to the movies to watch a historical epic today, but nobody in the 1960s was binge-watching subtitled foreign drama on TV.