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As an observer, I'm beginning to think you two have very different meanings of the words "social status" and if you both first operationalized it you both might

by DirkH 3y ago

As an observer, I'm beginning to think you two have very different meanings of the words "social status" and if you both first operationalized it you both might find you actually agree. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operationalization https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operationalization

blueflow 3y ago
They write to be seen. That's why they use their real name and have a bio in their profile. And a link to a website where you can see their face and name and score. For me its the discord that gives me pleasure. Disagreeing and teasing. To the extent that dang reprimanded me for flaming. Also I'm a nobody and i do not consider that a problem. So i'm largely selfish, not motivated by the status others attribute to me. We write on HN for different reasons. They assumed that their reason is something universal. Just a tiny mistake.
graeme 3y ago
Yeah, I'm using the definition of status from improv, which I think actually captures how people act and feel. The discussion started based on what people feel biochemically and that's based on our daily actions and actual status, rather than our formal social rank. I would be surprised to learn anyone is truly immune from status in this sense. "Keith Johnstone understands status as something one does, independent of the social status one has. Social status represents one's rank in a social order. At the upper end are secular and spiritual leaders (kings, priests), at the bottom end, dependents and outcasts. Social rank is approximately demonstrated through offices, titles, awards, and status symbols. Johnstone's "status", on the other hand, comes from the behavior of the characters in a specific encounter. He stresses that there is no neutral status; rather, some sort of difference is always present. A good actor is always conscious of the relative status of the portrayed characters and can playfully vary it." https://improwiki.com/en/wiki/improv/status#:~:text=In%20improvisational%20theater%2C%20%22status%22,character%20in%20a%20lower%20status https://improwiki.com/en/wiki/improv/status#:~:text=In%20imp....

by DirkH 3y ago

blueflow 3y ago

They write to be seen. That's why they use their real name and have a bio in their profile. And a link to a website where you can see their face and name and score. For me its the discord that gives me pleasure. Disagreeing and teasing. To the extent that dang reprimanded me for flaming. Also I'm a nobody and i do not consider that a problem. So i'm largely selfish, not motivated by the status others attribute to me. We write on HN for different reasons. They assumed that their reason is something universal. Just a tiny mistake.

graeme 3y ago

Yeah, I'm using the definition of status from improv, which I think actually captures how people act and feel. The discussion started based on what people feel biochemically and that's based on our daily actions and actual status, rather than our formal social rank. I would be surprised to learn anyone is truly immune from status in this sense. "Keith Johnstone understands status as something one does, independent of the social status one has. Social status represents one's rank in a social order. At the upper end are secular and spiritual leaders (kings, priests), at the bottom end, dependents and outcasts. Social rank is approximately demonstrated through offices, titles, awards, and status symbols. Johnstone's "status", on the other hand, comes from the behavior of the characters in a specific encounter. He stresses that there is no neutral status; rather, some sort of difference is always present. A good actor is always conscious of the relative status of the portrayed characters and can playfully vary it." https://improwiki.com/en/wiki/improv/status#:~:text=In%20improvisational%20theater%2C%20%22status%22,character%20in%20a%20lower%20status https://improwiki.com/en/wiki/improv/status#:~:text=In%20imp....