> I'm honestly asking because that term is thrown around in the US, but no one can ever define a number. There is no definition because it is impossible to de

> I'm honestly asking because that term is thrown around in the US, but no one can ever define a number. There is no definition because it is impossible to define. Everyone will say a number based on their very specific circumstances, problems and expected quality of life (Which will also vary from person to person) The elephant in the room is that besides trying to define a number for a livable wage there is nothing else but an extreme status quo replacement.